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Old 07-31-2007, 10:55 AM
vizer02 vizer02 is offline
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Default 200 NL - Would you make this river call?

I have no reads on villain, as I don't even have 25 hands on him yet. On the river the pot size is 186.50 and it's 68.50 for me to call, so I'm getting just under 3:1 to call. I can't beat anything on the river, so how often do I have to believe villain will bluff this river in order for me to profitably call?

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SB: $279.20
BB: $139.95
UTG: $101.85
UTG+1: $144.85
MP1: $166.00
MP2: $207.85
MP3: $125.50
Hero (CO): $267.40
BTN: $386.10

Preflop: Hero is dealt Jh Qh (9 Players)
4 folds, MP3 calls $2.00, Hero calls $2.00, BTN calls $2.00, SB folds, BB checks

Flop: ($9) Js 4c Qs (4 Players)
BB checks, MP3 bets $6.00, Hero raises to $18.00, 2 folds, MP3 calls $12.00

Turn: ($45) Th (2 Players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets $37.00, MP3 calls $37.00

River: ($119) As (2 Players)
MP3 bets all-in for $68.50, Hero ???
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Old 07-31-2007, 11:04 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL - Would you make this river call?

No.
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Old 07-31-2007, 11:09 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL - Would you make this river call?

no
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Old 07-31-2007, 11:09 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL - Would you make this river call?

What an aweful spot. The board is so draw heavy that you can't push the turn, and the river probably just made you sick since that 3rd spade didn't scare villain. I think you have to fold and take notes that this guy has no clue as to what pot odds are. As played, fold the river and exploit the weakness on another hand...it's bound to come up again.

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Old 07-31-2007, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: 200 NL - Would you make this river call?

I put him on KQ here. I think this is a clear fold. He has a straight, flush or better 2 pair here IMO.
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Old 07-31-2007, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL - Would you make this river call?

Yeah, i hate 2p hands. That's why I'd raise more on the flop and then go into pot control.
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Old 07-31-2007, 12:36 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL - Would you make this river call?

call!
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Old 07-31-2007, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL - Would you make this river call?

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call!

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Seriously?
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:15 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL - Would you make this river call?

easy fold
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Old 07-31-2007, 01:40 PM
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Default Re: 200 NL - Would you make this river call?

I think I'm supposed to call if I believe villain is bluffing x times/10. However, I don't know what that number is based upon getting laid 3:1 on the river. That was my real question, I know 9/10 I should fold this hand, which I did.
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