Some 2-7 TD questions...

[Cue-Ball 66]

Hey guys, just some quick, simple triple draw questions. Assume a full (6 player) table with all moderate to bad players. I'm just trying to learn the game and I'm just trying to get a feel as to what plays are good, etc.

If some more intelligent people than me could just give their chosen courses of action for each scenario that'd be great. Thanks.

#1

You have 25689 on the button after a limper.

#2

You are the big blind with 2789K, and it's raised from the button. SB folds.

#3

2489K on the BB. Folds to SB who limps.

[Bill King]

raise.

[Cue-Ball 66]

As helpful as that is, I was thinking more along the lines of what to do for each one (raise, call, fold), and what to draw to.

[MarkGritter]

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#1

You have 25689 on the button after a limper.


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Raise. Draw 1 if a player in either of the blinds comes along. Consider standing pat if the limper draws two and you believe you can get a fold, capturing the blind money left in the pot, but drawing one is OK too.

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#2

You are the big blind with 2789K, and it's raised from the button. SB folds.


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I am tempted to reraise and draw one if button is making a habit of this. But in a full game, at least consider folding. Since you state your belief that the other players are weak, call and draw three. (Don't draw two to 872 out of position if you can avoid it.)

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#3

2489K on the BB. Folds to SB who limps.

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If you suspect SB is limping trash, raise. You would generally be drawing one unless he is drawing one. But there are advantages to drawing two--- the pot is small and you'd like something you can value-bet.

If he's just passive and probably has something decent, check and draw two unless he's drawing three (in which case you should consider adjusting your opinion.) Definitely fold unimproved in this small pot.

In summary, the factors to consider:

1) What is his likely hand range for a raise or limp?
2) Is the pot very small? If it is small then you don't want to go to heroic measures to win it; you want to get more bets in later with a stronger hand. If it is bigger then taking free cards or standing pat rougher becomes more attractive. Don't make the pot bigger with a hand that will become difficult.
3) Draw more smoothly OOP than IP.

[DeathDonkey]

Agree with Mark except that I would default to drawing two in the third example.

-DeathDonkey

[HOWMANY]

1. Raise. What you do after this depends on whether the blinds come along.
2. Call/fold/raise. You can call because bad players will draw 2 to 678 on the button here, so your 27 or even 278 is better than it might look. You can fold because the opposition sucks and there are better spots (I wouldn't fold though). You can raise because you can draw 1 card to 9-terrible, but I wouldn't do that either.
3. Raise. You have position and the best hand. Whether you draw 1 or 2 is dependent on how many he draws, and since he limped I assume he usually has a 3 card draw or a bad 2 card draw, so I'm going to draw 1 here quite often.

[Cue-Ball 66]

Wow, thanks guys. That's exactly what I'm looking for, you have no idea how helpful that is. I might post some more scenarios later when I come across them.

[MagicNinja]

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#1
You have 25689 on the button after a limper.
- raise throw 9
#2
You are the big blind with 2789K, and it's raised from the call throw 2. if button is really aggro 3 bet. if sb calls throw 8.
#3
2489K on the BB. Folds to SB who limps.
raise throw 1 (logically you should throw 2 here but you throw one because if he limps he has a 2 card hand, so you will take it on next street 90% of time by drawing 1, as opposed to drawing two where he folds less.


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I didn't read other responses, looks like same thoughts.