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Old 11-02-2007, 10:59 PM
Unknown Soldier Unknown Soldier is offline
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Default Re: nl100 TT oop big pot

i think a shove is best on this board

i meant c/r not open lol
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Old 11-02-2007, 11:32 PM
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Default Re: nl100 TT oop big pot

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30 hands mean nothing so his stats are irrelevant. if you stack off on this flop youre always behind evry hand otehr than maaaaaybe 99, beacuse hes like never geting it in with AK or whatever unless he improves.

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yeah so dont i need to cr to prevent him hitting his overs in such a big pot?

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no cr here will only get u shoved on by better hands ...

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simply being behind every time he calls isn't a good reason not to c/r shove(if he's folding 75% of his cbets to a shove you get it in as fast as humanely possible for example)

omg I can't bluff anymore everytime he calls I lose ...

you have ~25equity vs anything that calls you

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Old 11-02-2007, 11:52 PM
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Default Re: nl100 TT oop big pot

check call flop, check fold river uninmproved
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:47 AM
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Default Re: nl100 TT oop big pot

Bottom set and soldier i completely aggree with you. Id like to see a rational in the chk call line here, seems like a very rediculous thing to do when it would make the pot bigger than the remaining stacks LOL.
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Old 11-03-2007, 12:55 AM
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Default Re: nl100 TT oop big pot

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simply being behind every time he calls isn't a good reason not to c/r shove(if he's folding 75% of his cbets to a shove you get it in as fast as humanely possible for example)

omg I can't bluff anymore everytime he calls I lose ...

you have ~25equity vs anything that calls you



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Let me just add that you don't give him free draw to his 6 outs two times over if he has something like AK/AQ
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:01 AM
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simply being behind every time he calls isn't a good reason not to c/r shove(if he's folding 75% of his cbets to a shove you get it in as fast as humanely possible for example)

omg I can't bluff anymore everytime he calls I lose ...

you have ~25equity vs anything that calls you



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Let me just add that you don't give him free draw to his 6 outs two times over if he has something like AK/AQ

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O really? who so?
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:06 AM
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Default Re: nl100 TT oop big pot

well if you c/c flop, and then check turn, you give him a free turn and river card... I guess i'm not really getting your question
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Old 11-03-2007, 01:12 AM
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well if you c/c flop, and then check turn, you give him a free turn and river card... I guess i'm not really getting your question

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your wording me think you were disagreeing with the cr when you werent.=) its late. yeah man we are on the same page here i think.
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Old 11-03-2007, 06:50 PM
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Default Re: nl100 TT oop big pot

actually if its like the first time this guy has 3 bet me (and after only 30 hands, im assuming villain couldnt have 3bet you all that much yet) im perfectly fine with folding PF when OOP. without a decent read you just end up either folding the best hand post flop, or stacking yourself way too often. adn almost never win a huge pot unless you hit a set vs his overpair... which is a small part of his range anyway if he is actually as aggro PF as you think
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