[200nl] Flop decision with QQ on K high board

Vammakala · #1 05-10-2007, 11:22 AM

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $407.25
Hero (BB): $219.70
UTG: $95.00
MP: $207.75
CO: $235.85
BTN: $280.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, CO raises to $7, 2 folds, Hero raises to $23, CO calls $16

Flop: ($47) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero bets $35, CO raises to $70, Hero ???

Villain is unknown, I've seen him limpfold in MP (raiser was in the blinds so he would've had position too), so I do not believe he's a strong player. I've used that line sometimes as a bluff, and I was wondering what kind of range do you see it being done by not so good players in REraised pots.

orange · #2 05-10-2007, 01:21 PM

meh, nasty spot. you should decide if your going to play for stacks here (not saying its bad, but vs. unknown id be less hesitant to stack off here). i would prob dump in this spot.

consider checking flop in the future.

Vammakala · #3 05-10-2007, 05:14 PM

Check flop? Seriously?

PBJaxx · #4 05-10-2007, 05:20 PM

Check/call - WA/WB yada...been discussed many times.

As played, dump against a relative unknown with a read that his relatively fishy.

Grunch · #5 05-10-2007, 05:36 PM

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Check flop? Seriously?

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Yes, seriously.

If you're not sure you would want to call a raise when you bet, you should check-call instead. Don't turn your hand in to a bluff.

Abramovic · #6 05-10-2007, 05:40 PM

I check flop normally. Fold now without a read

kokiri · #7 05-10-2007, 05:51 PM

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Check flop? Seriously?

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Yes, seriously.

If you're not sure you would want to call a raise when you bet, you should check-call instead. Don't turn your hand in to a bluff.

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if you check-call flop here, how often do you get to the showdown without facing more heat?

If we check call, are we in check/fold on turn river mode, check/call, or what?

tannenj · #8 05-10-2007, 05:52 PM

i'm not a fan of cc flop. i generally hate turning my hands into bluffs, but i like doing it here.

i'd just fold now.

Vammakala · #9 05-10-2007, 06:21 PM

Yeah, I was hesitant about checking because I thought I'm forfitting the hand too often to a worse hand (since you do get a bet most of the time when you do check). Soooo, against an unknown, c/c once and fold to turn push is the standard line?

I just don't think I've like ever check called here, but it does make a lot of sense, lol. If I had like JJ, or TT, then, betting would make more sense, right? Since I could potentially get QQ- to fold (which still beats me)