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Old 09-13-2007, 09:27 PM
aceskay aceskay is offline
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Default blind v. blind hand

Villain is completely unknown. Only his 2nd orbit at the table and I didn't learn anything from his 1st few hands.

Is this fold bad or standard vs. an unknown?

Thoughts on the flop raise?

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Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (2 SB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (4 BB) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 4 BB
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Old 09-13-2007, 09:28 PM
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Default Re: blind v. blind hand

i don't like the flop raise. the pot is nonexistent so protecting it takes a backseat to inducing bluffs.
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Old 09-13-2007, 09:29 PM
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Default Re: blind v. blind hand

so you think c/c the whole way is best, or bet if i'm checked to?
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Old 09-13-2007, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: blind v. blind hand

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so you think c/c the whole way is best, or bet if i'm checked to?

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exactly. use your position.
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Old 09-13-2007, 09:48 PM
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Default Re: blind v. blind hand

i calldown too
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Old 09-13-2007, 10:00 PM
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Default Re: blind v. blind hand

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c/c the whole way is best, and bet if checked to

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Old 09-13-2007, 11:03 PM
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Default Re: blind v. blind hand

Not a hard and fast rule, but don't raise the flop here if you're not eager to call down if he 3-bets.
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Old 09-14-2007, 07:01 AM
Gurravasa Gurravasa is offline
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Default Re: blind v. blind hand

from your recent posts acekey I think that you may be a little to agressive on the flop on many occasions, what are you flop AF stats? You must think what you gain from a raise in a situation like this. Not very much IMO.
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Old 09-14-2007, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: blind v. blind hand

my flop AF is 2.75, overall AF is 2.0...thoughts on these numbers?

you may be right from the standpoint that i love to jam flops when i get pieces of them, but this does leave me sometimes confused later in the hand, and also sometimes makes me call down without as good of hands bc the pot size is bigger
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Old 09-14-2007, 04:12 PM
detruncate detruncate is offline
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Default Re: blind v. blind hand

Yuck. Just plan to c/c down as I'm sure other people have said by now. This open complete/bet flop line can be a wide range of hands, and includes a lot of air. Our hand is marginal. The pot is small. We have a showdownable hand in position. Let him keep the initiative and get your ass to showdown.
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