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Old 06-18-2007, 02:03 PM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
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Default 50NL - Should I stop betting at some poi

These spots worry me. Should I just start to call his bets (wa/wb) at some point? Unkown villain.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Button ($25)
SB ($28.60)
Hero ($65.75)
UTG ($80.30)
MP ($46.25)
CO ($50.55)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($2) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.75</font>, MP calls $1.75, Button folds, SB folds.

Turn: ($5.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $9.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $33.75</font>, MP calls $34.50 (All-In), Hero calls $10.25.

River: ($93.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $93.50
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Old 06-18-2007, 02:34 PM
orig!naL orig!naL is offline
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Default Re: 50NL - Should I stop betting at some poi

I think that line is fine. You don't want to get in trouble when another spade peels off on the turn and then he shoves.
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Old 06-18-2007, 02:36 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - Should I stop betting at some poi

looks good
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Old 06-18-2007, 02:46 PM
K䲰䮥n K䲰䮥n is offline
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Default Re: 50NL - Should I stop betting at some poi

wow i'm so stupid. jet lag is killing me. lol this hand is obv. thanks for the non-wise ass replies

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Old 06-18-2007, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - Should I stop betting at some poi

Ok I have some points;
1. this is not wa/wb
2. after his miniraise on the turn villain has a pot sized bet left. I don´t think calling the mini raise is going to prevent the money going in if he has you beat. If you think he only ever does this with a Q-high flush or better, I don´t think you should be calling.
3. A ton of cards on the river potentially kill your hand/action. If dude has a set/lower flush I don´t think he will enjoy a 4th spade.
4. You think he will fold 2pair+ or tp with a fd to a push if he chose to play it like this?
5. I think your best way to get value out of worse hands is pushing the turn. I think your best way of minimizing losses against the nuts is folding. Without a rock-solid read to the contrary I would push.
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Old 06-19-2007, 06:39 AM
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Default Re: 50NL - Should I stop betting at some poi

If MP does have a higher flush then he's not raised enough to price out a set from calling (the call is 19.39%), because a set has 21.74% to hit a full house or quads and you would be very likely to win some more on the river if you hit were this the case.
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Old 06-19-2007, 10:09 AM
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Default Re: 50NL - Should I stop betting at some poi

I am putting villian on A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and Ax. With that holding he is a 34,78 % (8 for the FD and 9 outs for FH) underdog to win. He didn`t get the right odds to win...
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Old 06-19-2007, 10:19 AM
poker_n00b poker_n00b is offline
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Default Re: 50NL - Should I stop betting at some poi

You should get the money here everytime. Very seldom, maybe even never, will you have such a good read here that you're beat, that folding is correct.
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Old 06-19-2007, 10:51 AM
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Default Re: 50NL - Should I stop betting at some poi

YOU SHOULD FOLD HE PROBABLY HAS ACES

OR KINGS
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Old 06-19-2007, 11:07 PM
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Default Re: 50NL - Should I stop betting at some poi

[ QUOTE ]
YOU SHOULD FOLD HE PROBABLY HAS ACES

OR KINGS

[/ QUOTE ]

Your answer is incorrect and - ev!!! With As,Ax he is a 34.78 % underdog. With Ks,Kx a 20 % underdog. If we consider the pot on the turn 5.50 $ and look what villian calls for the odds, its only -ev with both of the above holdings.

*** will be continued...

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