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Old 08-24-2007, 12:07 AM
JacksonTens JacksonTens is offline
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Default Re: 75-150 hand, do I fold turn?

Is this live or online? (big diff in these spots IMO)

why not raise turn? are you in fear BB is b/3b??
becuz as you said SB is prolly on a draw...

BB could easily have some rubbish like 5h2h, I think with one betting on the str8 and teh other raising, on must have it yes?

I need a read to fold, and I feel we could get one in this spot.

I want to fold, but I dont always do what I want.

SB must have a hand...how good is the Q.

I'm folding.

JT
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Old 08-24-2007, 11:31 AM
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Default Re: 75-150 hand, do I fold turn?

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Is this live or online?

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Live
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why not raise turn?

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I actually put BB on 99 and had the correct read, and thought I was beat at this point. What else could he lead into me with after I 3 bet him in earlier rounds?

Good input, really appreciate it!

thanks
-nick
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Old 08-24-2007, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: 75-150 hand, do I fold turn?

Raise Turn

Fold River (although I don't hate a call either)
Part of the reason for a river fold is that it might get 3bet and I probably have to call 1 more closing the action.

Just because you put bb on 99 and he had it doesn't mean your play was correct. If you were so sure you should have folded (having 6 dirty outs).
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Old 08-25-2007, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: 75-150 hand, do I fold turn?

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Is this live or online?

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Live
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why not raise turn?

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I actually put BB on 99 and had the correct read, and thought I was beat at this point. What else could he lead into me with after I 3 bet him in earlier rounds?

Good input, really appreciate it!

thanks
-nick

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What else he could have?? First, with 9's the guy could have re-raised you pf. Second, there are many combination where the guy could have hands like K-9s and had two overs and a backdoor (K-9s is one example). Weird analysis on your part.
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Old 08-25-2007, 03:04 PM
Kala1928 Kala1928 is offline
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Default Re: 75-150 hand, do I fold turn?

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I didnt like this card (9h) because I believe this is in the Big Blinds range

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After ramming and jamming the flop the nine is in no way never ever in big blinds range in any way except the random A9 or 99. Atleast it isnt in his range in a way that it gave him a better hand than your aces.
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Old 08-26-2007, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: 75-150 hand, do I fold turn?

zero, if you would give reason why 9 was a bad card on the turn for you i think it may help discussion, it brings flush draw outs but the rank is near ideal... maybe Jh is better, but i think 9 is a great card... aside from 99 it missed everything...

my thought process on flop is that sb has a mediocre hand with a draw and bb has a made hand he is trying to protect ... turn doesnt change anything until we raise and see how things play out... in some games you can fold this river but not without extensive reads on both blinds and what they think of each other - folding the turn was never an option in my opinion, from the results it looks as if you play better than i do but i dont understand how it didnt get bumped there... i think that would help
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Old 08-26-2007, 11:32 PM
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Default Re: 75-150 hand, do I fold turn?

ship it pls,

Your thought process is very good. You are dead on with the small blind. I suspected the nine was bad only because I slowed BB down preflop with a 3 bet, and he check called after the flop which he would do against me whe he feels he is beat. I was playing fairly tight in this game not getting to out of line, giving him reason to believe I was strong. Giving all the action, I dont think he would bet the turn into 2 other players without a very strong hand, knowing that SB is a TAG, and I am somewhat between TAG and LAG.

The more I think about that hand though, I like your analysis better.

thanks
-Nick
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Old 09-03-2007, 04:21 PM
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Default Re: 75-150 hand, do I fold turn?

Definitely don't fold this river, BB has 99 80%, 76 20% imho, SB could have you beat but only with 22 really, and he has a random rivered 2 pair enough for you to call this.
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Old 09-03-2007, 04:43 PM
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