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Old 11-14-2007, 08:19 PM
Physixius Physixius is offline
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Default Re: AKs got lucky. +EV?

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Hey guys, i 've been reading 2+2 for some time now, but i decided to make my first post

cant u ad AA, KKor QQ to his range (hard to say since we dont have numbers on villain)
and if u add these to his range, is it still a push, since the A and K are no longer outs

feel free to correct me, i'm here to learn

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AA/KK/QQ is def in his range, but our equity vs his range when called combined with our folding equity is still easily enough to push since there's also JJ/TT/AK and som other hands in there.

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i still have to work on figuring out the whole FE stuff, but tnx for the answer ^^
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Old 11-14-2007, 08:27 PM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: AKs got lucky. +EV?

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Hey guys, i 've been reading 2+2 for some time now, but i decided to make my first post

cant u ad AA, KKor QQ to his range (hard to say since we dont have numbers on villain)
and if u add these to his range, is it still a push, since the A and K are no longer outs

feel free to correct me, i'm here to learn

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AA/KK/QQ is def in his range, but our equity vs his range when called combined with our folding equity is still easily enough to push since there's also JJ/TT/AK and som other hands in there.

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i still have to work on figuring out the whole FE stuff, but tnx for the answer ^^

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As a little help, if his range is AK/AQs/TT+ and he folds AK/JJ/TT he's folding more than 60% of his range. Those we win $58 straight away. The other times he calls and vs that range we have almost 40% eq.

Board: Qd 7d 6c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 60.993% 60.99% 00.00% 7246 0.00 { QQ+, AQs }
Hand 1: 39.007% 39.01% 00.00% 4634 0.00 { AdKd }


So we're in really good shape vs his range.
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Old 11-14-2007, 09:27 PM
MichaelBolton777 MichaelBolton777 is offline
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Default Re: AKs got lucky. +EV?

What % of the time, if ever, should this be 4 bet in position preflop against an unknown, assuming 100 bb stacks? how about oop?
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Old 11-14-2007, 09:52 PM
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Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (CO)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $16</font>, BB folds, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($33) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $25</font>, Hero....

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edit:
Turn: ($83) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
River: ($83) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)

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Old 11-14-2007, 09:56 PM
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Default Re: AKs got lucky. +EV?

lol
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:50 AM
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shove flop

lol bub
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Old 11-15-2007, 05:10 AM
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Default Re: AKs got lucky. +EV?

shove flop but I like the turn play. Mabe villain was going for a CRAI on turn so a 1/2 PSB would also do the trick [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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