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Old 10-16-2007, 01:53 PM
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Default 3bet Pots, So Much FUN

I just sat, HUD display not up yet, but I have a note that says "called 3bet oop with 87s" Does your play change without the note?

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HAND #1
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Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

MP: $286.30
CO: $199
BTN: $77
Hero (SB): $198
BB: $200
UTG: $110.55

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $8</font>, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $28</font>, BB folds, CO calls $20

Flop: ($58) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $44</font>, CO calls $44

Turn: ($146) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)



Villain is 27/23 thru 10 hands.

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HAND #2
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Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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MP: $30.80
CO: $253.80
BTN: $37
Hero (SB): $314.35
BB: $227.25
UTG: $275.20

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $6</font>, 3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $18

Flop: ($50) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $43</font>, UTG calls $43

Turn: ($136) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:00 PM
holland3r holland3r is offline
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Default Re: 3bet Pots, So Much FUN

OK hand 1, I think your flop bet is a little on the big side -- I usually bet more like $38 here, as it folds out everything that $44 would, saves you money when you're bluffing, and still makes it easy to get all the $ in when you have a monster.

On the turn I'm either going to open shove or c/rai depending on my recent history with the villain.

Hand 2 I just open shove the turn.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: 3bet Pots, So Much FUN

so his 3bet range is pretty vague. First hand I'm willing to check turn and I'm not going to like it if he fires.

Second hand I 3bet to a little bit more PF since you guys have close to 150bb. I'm going all the way there. If he fired the turn on first hand after my check i'm willing to c/r the turn here. Else I'll 2nd barrel and push pretty much any river.
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Old 10-16-2007, 03:18 PM
holland3r holland3r is offline
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Default Re: 3bet Pots, So Much FUN

Yeah I didn't see you were deep in hand 2 -- do what the guy above said.
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:42 PM
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Default Re: 3bet Pots, So Much FUN

I check both hands on the turn to see what villian is doing.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:07 PM
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Default Re: 3bet Pots, So Much FUN

1. Shove

2. 3bet a little more, 90+ on the turn, shove river.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:13 PM
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Default Re: 3bet Pots, So Much FUN

is everyone 3-betting preflop in hand one?
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:14 PM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: 3bet Pots, So Much FUN

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is everyone 3-betting preflop in hand one?

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That's pretty standard.
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Old 10-16-2007, 06:16 PM
Nick Royale Nick Royale is offline
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Default Re: 3bet Pots, So Much FUN

1. I usually c-bet a bit less. Shove turn.

2. Really tough spot. I think a fd, combo-draw, Jx and QQ are all likely. Sucks being slightly deep too.
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Old 10-16-2007, 07:04 PM
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Default Re: 3bet Pots, So Much FUN

Pot is getting pretty big in hand 1 and given brief history I would go ahead and commit myself on the turn.

I have been thinking a lot about hand 2 and I guess I bet/throw up if raised. It'd be soooo easy for him to shove all sorts of hands on the turn too. Meh, checkin feels terrible.
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