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Old 09-26-2007, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: Messing around in 1/2 - I think I only have one choice here.

U showed strentgh all the way on that hand and u had no prior history with that particular player before that hand so i m not sure we can assign more than 10% bluff into vilain s range.If that s the case a range of a player that looks "solidish" as u crushed in that spot.
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:48 PM
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Default Re: Messing around in 1/2 - I think I only have one choice here.

We're basing our decisions around not enough info. I maybe have two orbits on the guy.
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:51 PM
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Are we sure?

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Yes.
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:52 PM
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Default Re: Messing around in 1/2 - I think I only have one choice here.

And your standard line should be to fold this turn without better reads imo...
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:53 PM
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Default Re: Messing around in 1/2 - I think I only have one choice here.

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We're basing our decisions around not enough info. I maybe have two orbits on the guy.

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Still, what worse hand can we put him on? His line suggests great strength and not many players turn a PP into a bluff here. I guess something like AQhh or AJhh is possible. I wouldn't be suprised if he c/c flop with any AQ/AJ, but people at this level so rarely bluff in this spot. Even without a good read this is 8x/88/33/TT too often to continue.
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:53 PM
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And your standard line should be to fold this turn without better reads imo...

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For sure. Standard unknown is 100x more likely to make a move on the flop than turn on this kind of board.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:47 PM
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Default Re: Messing around in 1/2 - I think I only have one choice here.

um, i think you should call. because the board is paired on the flop, its much less likely that he was baluga'ing with something like a flopped set. this could be a bluff with nothing or even with a small pair. i'd call here & reevaluate the river action.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:55 PM
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Default Re: Messing around in 1/2 - I think I only have one choice here.

Looks like his pp is not holding up to your boldness and aggressiveness. OTOH he might be a drewler who is OWNING YOU WITH HIS MAGNIFICANT SLOWPLAYING. On this end we usually hold back on this boldness and aggresiveness.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:56 PM
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Default Re: Messing around in 1/2 - I think I only have one choice here.

Villains play looks fine if he has a monster....
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:01 PM
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Villains play looks fine if he has a monster....

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How can this be when everyone is saying fold?
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