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Old 10-21-2007, 04:22 AM
kenadams kenadams is offline
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Default [50NL] QQ vs A-high board

Villain is pretty nitty at 17/14/3.67 over 510 hands... At what hand range do you put him once he checked the flop in this 3-bet pot? Any better line to take in these situations?

$0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
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BB: $50
UTG: $50.35
MP: $67.39
CO: $49.75
BTN: $53.30
Hero (SB): $136.14

Pre-Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (SB)
2 folds, CO calls $0.50, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to $9</font>, CO folds, Hero calls $6

Flop: ($18.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: ($18.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $13.44</font>, Hero calls $13.44 (??)

River: ($45.38) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">BB bets $27.56 and is All-In</font>, Hero ... (??)
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:25 AM
whyzze whyzze is offline
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Default Re: [50NL] QQ vs A-high board

this is a standard AK line for this type of villian. Occasionaly he will show AQ or AA. But AK almost always.
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:28 AM
GSykes GSykes is offline
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Default Re: [50NL] QQ vs A-high board

I dont think you are ever good against this villian.
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:28 AM
HasPair HasPair is offline
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Default Re: [50NL] QQ vs A-high board

Also he could've hit a set on the turn with TT... You only beat a bluff here, which I don't think he has ever here.
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:42 AM
Jappejynx Jappejynx is offline
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Default Re: [50NL] QQ vs A-high board

Why would villain check AK on the flop?
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Old 10-21-2007, 09:58 AM
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Default Re: [50NL] QQ vs A-high board

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Why would villain check AK on the flop?

[/ QUOTE ]My point exactly. Wouldn't anyone pick that up as a sign of him being scared of the ace and put him on possibly KK/JJ?
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:01 AM
jmc999 jmc999 is offline
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Default Re: [50NL] QQ vs A-high board

I've seen this hand before in PNLH -- you check the flop with AK to get action from hands like QQ and JJ.

(i.e. you check the flop, so your opponent is curious as to why you didn't C-bet. He then proceeds to call with QQ/JJ because he thinks you're FOS).
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:04 AM
Profish2285 Profish2285 is offline
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Default Re: [50NL] QQ vs A-high board

If villain is decent, he would check flop sometimes as it is very dry, there are few bad turn cards, and he can get you to think exactly the way you are, paying him off with a hand you never would have if he bet the flop. I do this from time to time and it works like 100%.
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:20 AM
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Default Re: [50NL] QQ vs A-high board

Check fold on every street. If he doesn't have an Ace, he certainly has KK here, made a set with 1010 or a badly played JJ. Fold.
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Old 10-22-2007, 04:47 AM
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Default Re: [50NL] QQ vs A-high board

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I've seen this hand before in PNLH -- you check the flop with AK to get action from hands like QQ and JJ.

(i.e. you check the flop, so your opponent is curious as to why you didn't C-bet. He then proceeds to call with QQ/JJ because he thinks you're FOS).

[/ QUOTE ]Well this is exactly what happened and I payed him off with QQ and he showed AJ. It wasn't a play I was familiar with, so it really caught me off guard. GG for him.
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