AJ in a 3bet pot (help me not frig up this river)

[nextgenneo]

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If you are considering b/f'ng the river, then why were you going for a c/r on the this turn?

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Ah my bad, the converter didn't show my hand but as you can see I also had the NFD.

[jlocdog]

That may change your motives but I think you are missing the point.

[nextgenneo]

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That may change your motives but I think you are missing the point.

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Well I think if some1 is floating they are more likely to bet the turn first of all. Second I have good redraws vs a made hand on the turn and obviously I have missed the flush by the river. So thats why I think its vastly different c/r-ing turn and not wanting to b/call river.

What am I missing?

[jlocdog]

There aren't enough credible hands that he will be valueraising you on the river to outway the amount of air. My point of you wanting to c/r the turn was based on the fact that your c/r would be for value. So why would this river change that thinking.

Also, many of his hands are too weak to bet themselves but strong enough to call a bet for showdown purposes (KJ,JT,A9....). Missing this value is a crime.

[aislephive]

What the hell do you think he checks the turn on this board with then all of a sudden raises a 3/4 pot river bet on a complete blank?

[nextgenneo]

QQ?

[bet2win]

he would have to be an idiot to check the turn with a made hand

basically the river changes nothing, if he raises he nearly always has a bluff

[jlocdog]

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QQ?

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There aren't enough credible hands that he will be valueraising you on the river to outway the amount of air.

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[reup]

1 vote check/call he's good and you look weak he wants to bluff let him.

[jlocdog]

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1 vote check/call he's good and you look weak he wants to bluff let him.

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Also, many of his hands are too weak to bet themselves but strong enough to call a bet for showdown purposes (KJ,JT,A9....). Missing this value is a crime.

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