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Old 11-16-2007, 03:18 AM
BurnleyMik BurnleyMik is offline
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nah, if it checks through i might bet turn/check river. it's too many BB's to toss off on a bluff hoping nobody hit an ace

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Fair point, but do you not think it needs a strong ace to make the call?
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Old 11-16-2007, 03:37 AM
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Fair point, but do you not think it needs a strong ace to make the call?

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If they are calling a re-raise with ace-rag, they are not folding when an ace hits
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Old 11-16-2007, 03:44 AM
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I disagree, I think a strong bet here could make A9/AT/AJ all fold. So your are only getting called by two hands you are behind too. AK and AQ
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Old 11-16-2007, 03:56 AM
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Default Re: c bet? i don\'t but just want to hear from you

Bare with me, I'm drunk. I check the flop and see what villain does. I'm assuming AJ+, TT+ is his range. If villain bets I don't know what we're beating, I would need post flop reads (weak or strong bet).
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:32 AM
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I disagree, I think a strong bet here could make A9/AT/AJ all fold. So your are only getting called by two hands you are behind too. AK and AQ

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A9 is really folding?
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:41 AM
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Default Re: c bet? i don\'t but just want to hear from you

Looks fine. I'd make it t480 pf and check flop.

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I disagree, I think a strong bet here could make A9/AT/AJ all fold. So your are only getting called by two hands you are behind too. AK and AQ

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If someone called pf with A9/AT/AJ they're bad enough to not be folding the flop.
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Old 11-16-2007, 09:38 AM
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Default Re: c bet? i don\'t but just want to hear from you

I'd go slightly more preflop, I think you're just offering too good odds to the other players. Though I've started to flat call in similar situations as well, probably don't here.
I check this flop, nobody calls with an ace preflop & folds the flop (well MP1 might if UTG didnt fold but then your dead anyway). I'd check it HU aswell. Betting knocks out worse hands & doesnt knock out any better hands. So don't bet. With 2 other people in here it's a fold if someone bets.
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Old 11-16-2007, 09:53 AM
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think a strong bet could definately get a mediocre ace to fold here.

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if mediocre aces like A5-AT gonna call this reraise PF why would they fold the flop ?
and besides some will float inc+ase Suited Clubs

im checking here
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:06 AM
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My bad, of course A9 isn't folding. I think you will be suprised how many weak aces with call a three bet pre flop at the lower levels. i think some of you are giving the villains too much credit, as am I I guess thinking they can fold an ace.

I just don't like handing the initiative away...
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Old 11-16-2007, 10:29 AM
M1cKmAcK M1cKmAcK is offline
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pf looks ok... this sucks huge cuz your first to act now... I'd fire 750 on flop. If you get called I'm shutting down and checking turn, unless club peels off, then I might shove... if you get raised, gotta fold.
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