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Old 12-09-2006, 10:08 PM
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Quit poker if you lose a lot with AA.
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Old 12-09-2006, 10:12 PM
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Default Re: EV for AA

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Quit poker if you lose a lot with AA.

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Thanks for the insightful advice.
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Old 12-09-2006, 10:17 PM
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Quit poker if you lose a lot with AA.

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Thanks for the insightful advice.

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Well, if you can't win with the best starting hand, I can't imagine how much you're losing with the rest of the hands. I'm just trying to save you some money.
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Old 12-09-2006, 10:22 PM
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Gimmick account or not I tend to lose a lot of money on AA.

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Are you raising and re-raising pre-flop every time you get it? (and I do mean every time). If you are and still losing, then it's variance.

I always get a kick out of all the people at the $2/$4 B&M tables complaining about losing with AA. I hear again and again about how they'd rather have AK. Problem is, none of them ever raise with it.

Personally, I'm at 14000 hands since I started using PT, and I'm at 82% win rate and almost 3 BB/hand won. By comparison, AKs is 53% and AKo is 54%.

- Spike
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Old 12-09-2006, 10:25 PM
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Puhleeeeeeeeese!
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Old 12-09-2006, 10:30 PM
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Gimmick account or not I tend to lose a lot of money on AA.

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Are you raising and re-raising pre-flop every time you get it? (and I do mean every time). If you are and still losing, then it's variance.

I always get a kick out of all the people at the $2/$4 B&M tables complaining about losing with AA. I hear again and again about how they'd rather have AK. Problem is, none of them ever raise with it.

Personally, I'm at 14000 hands since I started using PT, and I'm at 82% win rate and almost 3 BB/hand won. By comparison, AKs is 53% and AKo is 54%.

- Spike

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Its funny. I must have a terrible case of variance because I pump the thing preflop with my AA yet I'll still get lots of callers that chase and usually beat me.

I'm reminded of something I read in Super System "You can win a small pot with AA or you can lose a large pot with it" or something like that.

Anyway, my own experience with AA in loose games made me take this thread seriously. How much of an edge does your big pair lose if 5 people will see the river every time you have it?


Edit:

Here's a great example of what happens when I get big pairs, taken moments ago.






Yeah so what if I'm whining? The same ****ing thing just happened to my AK.
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Old 12-09-2006, 10:33 PM
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Super System is a NL book. It hardly applies.
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Old 12-09-2006, 10:56 PM
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Quit poker if you lose a lot with AA.

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Thanks for the insightful advice.

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What kind of response were you looking for?
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Old 12-10-2006, 12:29 AM
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You have 10 outs now, treat it like a flush draw and you'll be fine.
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