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Old 06-01-2006, 12:06 AM
PayoffWiz PayoffWiz is offline
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Default Flopped a straight facing an overbet on the river.

Villain was about a 55/25/4 at the time the hand took place, but last time I saw him wake up on the river, he showed the nuts. Thoughts?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Hero (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP ($28)
CO ($100.30)
Button ($98)
SB ($186.67)
Hero ($101.85)
UTG ($50.29)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB (poster) completes, Hero checks.

Flop: ($3) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, UTG folds, SB calls $3.

Turn: ($11) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12</font>, SB calls $11.

River: ($35) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $52.69</font>,
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Old 06-01-2006, 12:26 AM
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Default Re: Flopped a straight facing an overbet on the river.

Nobody?
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Old 06-01-2006, 12:29 AM
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Default Re: Flopped a straight facing an overbet on the river.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE wait more than 20 minutes before bumping your own thread. PLEASE!

Without a good read I like folding the bottom end of the 4-card straight to the massive overbet. You may win a lot of money if you're right. But there are plenty of other opportunities ahead.

Don't got broke with the sucker end of the straight...especially with 4 on the board.
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Old 06-01-2006, 12:32 AM
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Default Re: Flopped a straight facing an overbet on the river.

I agree, im folding this on the river.

I think theres a good chance villian flopped a str8 too.
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Old 06-01-2006, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: Flopped a straight facing an overbet on the river.

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last time I saw him wake up on the river, he showed the nuts.

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i really dont understand how you can really consider calling.
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Old 06-01-2006, 12:35 AM
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Default Re: Flopped a straight facing an overbet on the river.

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last time I saw him wake up on the river, he showed the nuts.

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i really dont understand how you can really consider calling.

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because that river doesn't change anything in this hand unless villain is a monumental donk
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Old 06-01-2006, 12:39 AM
xwillience xwillience is offline
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Default Re: Flopped a straight facing an overbet on the river.

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last time I saw him wake up on the river, he showed the nuts.

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i really dont understand how you can really consider calling.

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because that river doesn't change anything in this hand unless villain is a monumental donk

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true... but the $1 bets then a river push scream BIG HAND!
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Old 06-01-2006, 01:08 AM
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Default Re: Flopped a straight facing an overbet on the river.

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PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE wait more than 20 minutes before bumping your own thread. PLEASE!

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Sorry. I'm impatient.

As to the hand, I really thought I was chopping at best. I let the timer run to to the last second before I finally folded. The only reasons I considered calling was because I was having a hard time putting the villain on Q and he was fairly aggressive post flop, frequently overbetting pots. However, after I potted it on two previous streets, his river lead for nearly twice the pot on the river screamed Q to me. I don't think he was making a move here and I don't like calling overbets to chop in a best case scenario. I suppose he could have had Q7.
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Old 06-01-2006, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: Flopped a straight facing an overbet on the river.

What's villain's SN? There's one who's been playing the 100s who likes to make big river bluffs exactly like this one...

His sn starts w/ uc and ends w/ 21 and he has similar stats.... otherwise this is a fold...
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Old 06-01-2006, 03:04 AM
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Nope not uc...21.
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