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Old 11-27-2007, 01:12 AM
billybeartku billybeartku is offline
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Default stars 100, KK btn, 4 bet pot against a reg Tag

no stats on him but i've played him for months. (Playing at someone else's computer, no PT, no hud..)
Villain is alainlapaire
advice on all streets appreciated [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: $36.55
UTG: $141.65
MP: $99
CO: $66.40
Hero (BTN): $195.40
SB: $148.10

Pre-Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BTN)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="red">SB raises to $15</font>, BB folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $45</font>, SB calls $30

Flop: ($91) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($91) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($91) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $55</font>, Hero ??
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:19 AM
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Default Re: stars 100, KK btn, 4 bet pot against a reg Tag

Fold.
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:35 AM
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Default Re: stars 100, KK btn, 4 bet pot against a reg Tag

The flop was awful. The river finished you off. Fold.
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Old 11-27-2007, 01:37 AM
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Default Re: stars 100, KK btn, 4 bet pot against a reg Tag

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Fold so fast.
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:06 AM
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Default Re: stars 100, KK btn, 4 bet pot against a reg Tag

If you played with him for months, you'd probably know if he's really bad. Since he's got to be half decent aren't you going to put villain's 4-bet calling range on JJ+?

You can't beat anything here, gotta fold.
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:25 AM
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Default Re: stars 100, KK btn, 4 bet pot against a reg Tag

fold

maybe turning our hand in to a bluff on the flop to prevent being bluffed off later isnt too bad in this spot?
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:26 AM
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Default Re: stars 100, KK btn, 4 bet pot against a reg Tag

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fold

maybe turning our hand in to a bluff on the flop to prevent being bluffed off later isnt too bad in this spot?

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terrible
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:33 AM
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Default Re: stars 100, KK btn, 4 bet pot against a reg Tag

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fold

maybe turning our hand in to a bluff on the flop to prevent being bluffed off later isnt too bad in this spot?

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terrible

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care to explain why?

if our plan is to check behind turn and river and fold to aggression then we are basically giving the pot to him regardless of our cards
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:38 AM
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Default Re: stars 100, KK btn, 4 bet pot against a reg Tag

ok ill phrase this another way. if vils range is exactly 99-JJ, it is better to bluff the flop if we intend to fold to any aggression later in the hand, does everyone agree?
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Old 11-27-2007, 02:38 AM
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Default Re: stars 100, KK btn, 4 bet pot against a reg Tag

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fold

maybe turning our hand in to a bluff on the flop to prevent being bluffed off later isnt too bad in this spot?

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terrible

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care to explain why?

if our plan is to check behind turn and river and fold to aggression then we are basically giving the pot to him regardless of our cards

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That sounds like an excellent plan to me, because the flop bufu'd us against his range.
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