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#21
04-01-2007, 06:45 AM
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Re: How difficult is it to become a good limit player?
It's not too difficult to become a good limit player. It's very difficult to become a better than average player.
The point is that with the access to information, the overall level of play has gone up considerably. 
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#22
04-01-2007, 12:38 PM
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Re: How difficult is it to become a good limit player?
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It's not too difficult to become a good limit player. It's very difficult to become a better than average player. [/ QUOTE ] ??? So a good player can be average or worse? A good player generates a profit. This is not possible unless one is above average.
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#23
04-01-2007, 06:10 PM
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Re: How difficult is it to become a good limit player?
My thinking is it would be easier to become very good at limit than no limit because there is a fixed number of decisions.
However, to learn to beat small games I think NL is easier. If you have some sort of tightish and or aggressive strategy and don't do anything too stupid you should win. In limit I think you need to have a better idea of relative hand strength.
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#24
04-01-2007, 07:11 PM
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Re: How difficult is it to become a good limit player?
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My thinking is it would be easier to become very good at limit than no limit because there is a fixed number of decisions. However, to learn to beat small games I think NL is easier. If you have some sort of tightish and or aggressive strategy and don't do anything too stupid you should win. In limit I think you need to have a better idea of relative hand strength. [/ QUOTE ] Up to what size NL game would you suppose this to be true? Specifically: Do you think learning 2/5 NL would be easier than 15/30 limit?
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#26
04-02-2007, 06:00 AM
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Re: How difficult is it to become a good limit player?
I like the way emerson put it... that LHE required knowledge, and thus a 'student' who's been playing for a while will express that "it's easy." Whereas NLHE is more difficult to study, but will come easily to people with good 'instincts'.
Of course like most things, you can't really simplify it this easily. But in my experience I can agree, although I've never thought of it in that exact way. I enjoy LHE because it is a much more linear learning curve, so I feel like I am progressing more consistently. I have played quite a bit of NLHE, and have gotten frustrated because hands rarely get shown down - you have to rely on 'instincts' more than cut-n-dry knowledge. Apparently I don't have only mediocre instincts, and I'm fine with that. My personality is not that of a die-hard poker player anyways (Mike McDermott comes to mind). I think, to each his own! The differences in the games are why they can sucessfully co-exist.
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#27
04-02-2007, 08:12 PM
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Re: How difficult is it to become a good limit player?
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[ QUOTE ] It's not too difficult to become a good limit player. It's very difficult to become a better than average player. [/ QUOTE ] ??? So a good player can be average or worse? A good player generates a profit. This is not possible unless one is above average. [/ QUOTE ] A good player playing 20/40 can make 15-25 dollars/hour. A great player can make 50-60/hour. Someone told me recently "The best player at the table makes a bb/hour, the second best makes half of that, the third breaks even and everyone else loses."
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#29
04-02-2007, 10:26 PM
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Re: How difficult is it to become a good limit player?
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jkam i think your numbers are off. [/ QUOTE ] Which part? Most of the regulars I talk to make around 27/hour. Then there are a few excellent players that make 55ish an hour. And a lot of people that are breakeven at best.
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#30
04-02-2007, 11:59 PM
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Re: How difficult is it to become a good limit player?
Yeah are we talking online multitabling? A 20/40 6 max online player is going to make like 300+ per hour with rakeback.
-DeathDonkey
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