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Old 06-07-2007, 08:35 AM
Bonesy Bonesy is offline
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Default NL 25 QQ vs shortie and big pf cold caller

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No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10./$0.25.
5 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $5.50
Hero: $62.67
Button: $32.99
SB: $17.57
BB: $36.29

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $0.85</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.9</font>, 2 folds, BB calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $5.5</font>, Hero???

I had just doubled up through BB three hands earlier. His stas were 80/3/1. He as cold calling everything pf. Is this an all in or standard pot sized raise?
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Old 06-07-2007, 08:44 AM
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Default Re: NL 25 QQ vs shortie and big pf cold caller

If he calls everything then you should obviously shove.
If you think he'd fold to a push then hit the bet pot button.
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Old 06-07-2007, 10:28 AM
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Default Re: NL 25 QQ vs shortie and big pf cold caller

Arrrr in. BB is insane.
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Old 06-07-2007, 10:32 AM
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Default Re: NL 25 QQ vs shortie and big pf cold caller

I'm probably over thinking this but if I make a psr and villain calls, I'm in a sticky spot on the flop if an ace or king hits. The pot will be very big and it will be hard to fold. Villain is somewhat deep also. Is this incorrect?
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Old 06-07-2007, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 QQ vs shortie and big pf cold caller

If you think he is more likely to call a smaller raise than ai, then rr pot sized. Shove any flop. But if he is insane just shove pf.
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Old 06-07-2007, 12:53 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 QQ vs shortie and big pf cold caller

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I'm probably over thinking this but if I make a psr and villain calls, I'm in a sticky spot on the flop if an ace or king hits. The pot will be very big and it will be hard to fold. Villain is somewhat deep also. Is this incorrect?

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Why would you fold if an A or K flops? If you raise 35% of your stack pf with QQ you donīt fold ever. AKJ you shove and feel good about it.
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Old 06-07-2007, 01:41 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 QQ vs shortie and big pf cold caller

We are not worried about shorty. You can shove to isolate UTG. But he may have you beat,so why loose the calling station by shoving and scaring him of a worst hand.

IMO: I would call not to scare the BB away and re-evaluate the flop, you are in position. I feel that UTG has KK+ or AK,or even AX, so lets try to get some chips from BB who may be holding a worst hand.
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Old 06-07-2007, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 QQ vs shortie and big pf cold caller

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I'm probably over thinking this but if I make a psr and villain calls, I'm in a sticky spot on the flop if an ace or king hits. The pot will be very big and it will be hard to fold. Villain is somewhat deep also. Is this incorrect?

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Why would you fold if an A or K flops? If you raise 35% of your stack pf with QQ you donīt fold ever. AKJ you shove and feel good about it.

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That's really awful advice.. feeling pot committed on any flop when you have only put 35% of your stack in is gross.. you still have 65% left.
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Old 06-07-2007, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 QQ vs shortie and big pf cold caller

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I'm probably over thinking this but if I make a psr and villain calls, I'm in a sticky spot on the flop if an ace or king hits. The pot will be very big and it will be hard to fold. Villain is somewhat deep also. Is this incorrect?

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Why would you fold if an A or K flops? If you raise 35% of your stack pf with QQ you donīt fold ever. AKJ you shove and feel good about it.

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That's really awful advice.. feeling pot committed on any flop when you have only put 35% of your stack in is gross.. you still have 65% left.

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You know what is even worse, putting in 35% pf and folding the best hand post flop. How do you know he has an A or K in his hand? So many villians shove their entire range on the flop when the pot is big. Flop is AKJ, villain shoves, you fold and villain tables 77 gg. The whole point is villain is loose and bad. If villain is tight and good we donīt have this discussion.
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Old 06-07-2007, 03:13 PM
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Default Re: NL 25 QQ vs shortie and big pf cold caller

I should shove all in.. this is the kind of hand you want to play heads up.
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