AQs backdoors a flush and gets raised big on paired board

[prodonkey]

VIllain is 86/5/3

I don't c-bet missed flops vs guys like this too often as they can pretty much have any 2 and don't really like to fold to a c-bet. Should I ship it in on the river? Or just call?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

<font color="black">Hero (SB): $49.60</font>
BB: $57.05
UTG: $51.30
MP: $61.45
CO: $53.05
BTN: $58.05

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt (6 Players)
2 folds, CO calls $0.50, BTN folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $2.00</font>, BB folds, CO calls $1.50

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($4.50) (2 Players)
Hero checks, CO checks

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($4.50) (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $0.50</font>, Hero calls $0.50

<font color="black">River:</font> ($5.50) (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $3.50</font>, <font color="red">CO raises to $16.00</font>, Hero ???

[Gullanian]

Always calling here. Villain could of been slowplaying 44 or even spiked 22, but you see 6x here so many time. You might even be against a busted flush draw, or a worse flush.

Infact looking at it again I really think he busted his club flush draw.

Anyway call.

[munkey]

You can always call and not raise the river -my preffered option.

I bet the turn here. To adjust vs these donks my cbetting I cbet less but still with good equity - and occasionaly not paired flops they like to raise/bluff on. So I play the flop the same a good % time.

I can't work out what he's got[range] so am just calling - I think a shove will only get called by boats but IDK I'm pretty vag on paired boards with flushes BTW and that action.

[Antinome]

on a board where a connector or A6 makes a boat I call, on this board I jam river.

[sisyphus75]

Raise more PreFlop since you will be out of position, maybe to $3.

Then a good cbet, like 4.50. You want to represent something big. If he calls, re-evaluate the turn. If he goes over the top fold. Ck turn, and call his donk bet.

You can call, but the way he played his hand is weired, I could shove. Calling is pretty passive. His range is huge, he could have flopped the boat. I would put him on a busted flush, and shove.

[munkey]

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on a board where a connector or A6 makes a boat I call, on this board I jam river.

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Interesting idea - tks antinome, so if the river was a 5 so 56 could have boated you's be more careful?

As I said I'm a real vag with flushes on paired boards where I haven't bet earlier and have an idea of what villan could hold.

+value bbs

[BevillTheDevil]

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VIllain is 86/5/3

I don't c-bet missed flops vs guys like this too often as they can pretty much have any 2 and don't really like to fold to a c-bet.

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i use to think this but honestly if they pretty much have any 2 here then a cbet is for value yo, ship the A high...

so id cbet flop but as played i dont mind bettin the turn. River is tough, we showed so much weakness on flop/turn river could be alot IMO, could bet 6x, boats, missed draw, lower flush, maybe Jx hands and mid PPs...if we push villian's probably foldin air, but will still call with probably any flush, 6x hands, boats and possible junk 1 pair hands which i think makes it a good push??

[sharpie]

Push the river. He has a worse flush or retarded trips more often than a boat. He'll call off anything, look at his stats.

[prodonkey]

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Raise more PreFlop since you will be out of position, maybe to $3.

Then a good cbet, like 4.50. You want to represent something big. If he calls, re-evaluate the turn. If he goes over the top fold. Ck turn, and call his donk bet.

You can call, but the way he played his hand is weired, I could shove. Calling is pretty passive. His range is huge, he could have flopped the boat. I would put him on a busted flush, and shove.

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And a busted flush is supposed to call all in? come on

[sisyphus75]

I suppose, if I were villain trying to steal, I would fold to an ai.

If you go ai, are you asking for a better hand to call?

Are you wondering if you are calling, folding or trying to extract?