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check/call 1 8.33%
bet/call 5 41.67%
bet/3b 5 41.67%
check/raise 1 8.33%
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  #1101  
Old 09-26-2007, 02:22 AM
pineapple888 pineapple888 is offline
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Default Re: River bluff?

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Also I think classifying this as a blocking bet from a random 25nl player is silly

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Just because he doesn't know what it is doesn't mean that's not what it is.
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:09 AM
cha59 cha59 is offline
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Default Re: River bluff?

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Also I think classifying this as a blocking bet from a random 25nl player is silly

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Just because he doesn't know what it is doesn't mean that's not what it is.

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In the limited amount of cash I play, I see these weakish bets from players with medium strength to weakish hands quite often.
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:29 AM
Dr_Jeckyl_00 Dr_Jeckyl_00 is offline
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Default $25 NL w/ KK on scary flop

I posted in micro w/ few responses. Also looks like converter may have messed up slightly...

How is my line post flop? No reads, had been playing for about 15 minutes...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($6.45)
MP2 ($19.40)
MP3 ($23.50)
CO ($8)
Button ($18.90)
SB ($18.60)
BB ($8.70)
UTG ($24.70)
Hero ($25.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Kc, Kh.
UTG|UTG raises to $1.1, Hero raises to $2.5, 7 folds, UTG|UTG calls $1.40.

Flop: ($4.25) 7, 8, Q (2 players)
UTG|UTG bets $3, Hero raises to $8, UTG|UTG raises to $27.2, Hero ?
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:38 AM
Josem Josem is offline
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Default Re: $25 NL w/ KK on scary flop

what's scary about a Q87 flop at $25NL? You have an overpair, get it in.
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Old 09-26-2007, 09:45 AM
rhettoric rhettoric is offline
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Default Re: River bluff?

hey guys,

sorry if this isn't appropriate, but I'm trying to get better with my play when I have big pairs. Villain was an unknown to me so I had no reads. Am I looking at a set here ? an underpair?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

BB ($49.50)
UTG ($76.45)
Hero ($58.45)
MP1 ($16.75)
MP2 ($46.60)
MP3 ($14.50)
CO ($27.65)
Button ($48.75)
SB ($45.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, A.
1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 5 folds, SB calls $1.75, 1 fold.

Flop: ($4.50) T, 9, 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4, SB calls $4.

Turn: ($12.50) 4 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12, SB raises to $24, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $36.50
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:13 AM
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Default Re: $25 NL w/ KK on scary flop

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I posted in micro w/ few responses. Also looks like converter may have messed up slightly...

How is my line post flop? No reads, had been playing for about 15 minutes...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($6.45)
MP2 ($19.40)
MP3 ($23.50)
CO ($8)
Button ($18.90)
SB ($18.60)
BB ($8.70)
UTG ($24.70)
Hero ($25.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Kc, Kh.
UTG|UTG raises to $1.1, Hero raises to $2.5, 7 folds, UTG|UTG calls $1.40.

Flop: ($4.25) 7, 8, Q (2 players)
UTG|UTG bets $3, Hero raises to $8, UTG|UTG raises to $27.2, Hero ?

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I'd just call the flop bet in my games if that flop is rainbow and even usually if there's a flush draw on it. But I'd imagine it might not be as alarming when you get led into after 3betting preflop at NL25, so it's probably fine.

Also raise a bit more pre, I'd make it like $3.25.
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:18 AM
Dr_Jeckyl_00 Dr_Jeckyl_00 is offline
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Default Re: $25 NL w/ KK on scary flop

sorry, I just copied from micro NL post. The flop is all same suit... that is what is scary...
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Old 09-26-2007, 10:36 AM
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Default Re: $25 NL w/ KK on scary flop

Are either of your kings the same suit as the board?
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:05 AM
IFoldPktOnes IFoldPktOnes is offline
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Default Re: $25 NL w/ KK on scary flop

Hey I'm fairly new to cash games,
CO is 61/8/1 over 250 hands, has no respect for my my c-bets.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

BB ($36.10)
Hero ($40.30)
MP ($26)
CO ($53.20)
Button ($24.65)
SB ($24.75)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $1, Button calls $1, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($3.35) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.5</font>, CO calls $2.50, Button folds.

Turn: ($8.35) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">CO bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $12.5</font>, CO calls $7.50.

River: ($33.35) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $24.3 (All-In)</font>
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Old 09-26-2007, 11:40 AM
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Default Re: $25 NL w/ KK on scary flop

You need to make it like, $17 on the turn.
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