Donk of death the river?

[jkamowitz]

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The real Donk of Death is jack king of spades; which I have seen in this game.

Sounds like your rivered set got cracked here by a donked straight when he stays around since he hit his color draw on the turn.

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. . . .what? This is neither possible nor helpful.

Grease, I like the bet because I always like ensuring a bet goes in.

[nineinchal]

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The real Donk of Death is jack king of spades; which I have seen in this game.

Sounds like your rivered set got cracked here by a donked straight when he stays around since he hit his color draw on the turn.

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. . . .what? This is neither possible nor helpful.

Grease, I like the bet because I always like ensuring a bet goes in.

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Oh its possible, this hand happened to me against Damian (I think that was his name) before he went busto. Only change the 7 to a 5 and the 3 to a deuce on this board to protect the innocent.

Why else would this thread be called the Donk of Death?

[scoresman]

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Grease, I like the bet because I always like ensuring a bet goes in.

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[Grease]

Ok, so I obviously won the hand after he called my donk and mucked (he said he had two pair though.)

What if I don't improve? Totally player dependent? I could find a fold here against him because he can definitely beat top pair here, but should I make these thin calls anyways in case he has that 5% brain damage line?

What if the board pairs low? C/R and fold to a trey? Too fancy?

[bakku]

he has 2 pair or a set. c/r because he's not raising if you donk

whoever said KJss is possible has problems reading.

[pohuist]

There are cases, though rare at these limits, and usually not with this kind of a player, when he is semibluff-raising with a pair and straight and/or flush draw on a turn. There usually is enough money in the pot to call the river u/i even though you overpair is no good most of the time. I would bet/fold rather than CR/fold if the board pairs.

[bakku]

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when he is semibluff-raising with a pair and straight draw

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this isn't omaha so it's not possible for him to have a pair + straight draw on this board

[MitchL]

It never ceases to amaze me what passive live players will check behind with on the river. A couple of months ago in the Bellagio 30 I had set over set 2x (1 time I had the over and the other the under), both times they checked behind neither time was the board at all scary, i.e. the nut hands would make no sense given the action. I have sworn off trying to cr loose passives on the river.

[sirlurkalot]

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It never ceases to amaze me what passive live players will check behind with on the river. ... I have sworn off trying to cr loose passives on the river.

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Agreed. Many bad players read the board at each street w/o considering the prior action. That's a prime reason why they often incorrectly miss value bets. That's part of the reason why bet/3 > c/r here.

[pohuist]

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this isn't omaha so it's not possible for him to have a pair + straight draw on this board

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I realize that. It is my understanding that OP was asking a more general question, not relative to the this specific board, so I answered in a more general way.