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Old 06-19-2007, 12:09 PM
iron81 iron81 is offline
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So, by your logic, the campaigner can't draw a salary from the campaign? This seems preposterous.

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That's the law, at least for Federal Campaigns. In my state, at least until recently a state politician was allowed to take his campaign fund for personal use after he retired.

And people keep saying that people get into politics for money.
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Old 06-19-2007, 12:11 PM
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If I made a donation to a political campaign, I would certainly expect a small portion of the donation to go towards compensating the candidate for his time.


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OBV !!


but the reason you dont understand why this is a problem is because you dont live in bizaroworld where

profit=bad collectivism=good intervention=productive

take out your brain an stomp on it a few times. then you can truly understand the left.
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Old 06-19-2007, 12:13 PM
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Default Re: Ron Paul\'s Campaign Ethics Questioned...

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If I made a donation to a political campaign, I would certainly expect a small portion of the donation to go towards compensating the candidate for his time.


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OBV !!


but the reason you dont understand why this is a problem is because you dont live in bizaroworld where

profit=bad collectivism=good intervention=productive

take out your brain an stomp on it a few times. then you can truly understand the left.

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Why doesnt Ron Paul take money from corporations and boasts about it?
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Old 06-19-2007, 12:22 PM
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Default Re: Ron Paul\'s Campaign Ethics Questioned...

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Why doesnt Ron Paul take money from corporations and boasts about it?


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To avoid the appearance of impropriety LDO.

Paying someone for doing a job is not an impropriety.

And hiring someone who knows you and your views better than anyone, someone who believes in you and is totally trustworthy is smart not nefarious.
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Old 06-19-2007, 12:31 PM
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Default Re: Ron Paul\'s Campaign Ethics Questioned...

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So, by your logic, the campaigner can't draw a salary from the campaign? This seems preposterous.

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That's the law, at least for Federal Campaigns. In my state, at least until recently a state politician was allowed to take his campaign fund for personal use after he retired.

And people keep saying that people get into politics for money.

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Really? I thought they could pay themselves a salary. Link?
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Old 06-19-2007, 01:00 PM
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huh? A campaigner (one running for office) be PAID to run for office.....

No, you get 'paid' if you win.

Trouble is, for all you Paul supporters, HE was doing this.

Were it ONLY the 'others' you would be all over them.

Me, I am all over ALL for it.

Running for office is NOT a job. Running for office is asking to be hired by the public FOR a job.

But then again in this welfare society seems everyone thinks everyone else 'owes' you for something reguardless of if you are actually 'due' anything.

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The bottom line is NO ONE should be using funds donated to him / her for personal use or to benifit his / her family, Paul included.


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So, by your logic, the campaigner can't draw a salary from the campaign? This seems preposterous. These guys are busting thier asses, and it's not unreasonable for them to draw some compensation from the campaign funds. And if his family members are working for the campaign, shouldn't they be compensated as well?

If I made a donation to a political campaign, I would certainly expect a small portion of the donation to go towards compensating the candidate for his time.

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Old 06-19-2007, 01:06 PM
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Running for office is NOT a job. Running for office is asking to be hired by the public FOR a job.


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Yeah, except the interview is 1.5 years long. So under your scheme (and I guess the present arrangement) only the independently wealthy who can afford to not work for 2 years and those presently holding office who have a flexible schedule can run for office.
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Old 06-19-2007, 01:14 PM
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Default Re: Ron Paul\'s Campaign Ethics Questioned...

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huh? A campaigner (one running for office) be PAID to run for office.....

No, you get 'paid' if you win.

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If I want to pay someone to run for office, that's my business.

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Trouble is, for all you Paul supporters, HE was doing this.

Were it ONLY the 'others' you would be all over them.

Me, I am all over ALL for it.

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I'm not a Ron Paul supporter.

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Running for office is NOT a job. Running for office is asking to be hired by the public FOR a job.

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But the public isn't who is "paying" the "salary." The donators are. If the donators don't care if the guy uses some of the donated money to feed himself or pay a mortgage, what difference does it make?

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But then again in this welfare society seems everyone thinks everyone else 'owes' you for something reguardless of if you are actually 'due' anything.

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Strawman. The donations are voluntarily given.
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Old 06-19-2007, 01:18 PM
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Default Re: Ron Paul\'s Campaign Ethics Questioned...

Meanwhile, the husband of a presidential candidate receives speaking fees of $10 million a year, many from groups with business before Congress. No, no funny business there.
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Old 06-19-2007, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: Ron Paul\'s Campaign Ethics Questioned...

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Running for office is NOT a job. Running for office is asking to be hired by the public FOR a job.


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Yeah, except the interview is 1.5 years long. So under your scheme (and I guess the present arrangement) only the independently wealthy who can afford to not work for 2 years and those presently holding office who have a flexible schedule can run for office.

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1. Most campaigns require far less time than a Presidential run. Most Congressional and Senate runs are part time deals. Even among the Presidential candidates, I bet the fringe candidates are only working on their campaigns part time, mostly because they don't have the money to criss-cross the country.

2. I think your campaign fund is allowed to pick up most of your essential expenses like food, shelter (hotels) and transportation. If you really were flat broke and wanted to run for president, you could survive if you can raise money.
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