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Old 10-12-2007, 10:43 AM
ChicagoRy ChicagoRy is offline
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Default Re: NLTRN - Halp! How to handle spewtards?

Turned straight or A7/A2. Could also be a ton of other things, this kind of player seems fairly random.

Generally speaking, this is why you don't want to c-bet 80% in this level.
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Old 10-12-2007, 10:49 AM
BarryLyndon BarryLyndon is offline
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Default Re: NLTRN - Halp! How to handle spewtards?

Against spewtards who are overplaying hands, it's so easy heads up. I have my biggest problems with the NoLimitLimit nits who bet 20 into 100 on EVERY HAND because they are jerking off to porn while playing on a $50 BR. They just annoy me and I feel like I'm in kintergarden again.

Just continue to look "weak," only raising your strong hands, OCCASSIONALLY smooth calling with powerful hands, and checking a ton so that they think they can "bully" you. Mix your checking with continuation betting, and I mean betting 1/2 to 2/3rds the pot. Against a passive spewtard, you bet closer to 3/4ers or 4/4ths the pot, because they will pay your ass off. But, against a spewtard, you want to go in for that 30BB RR at 30/60, because that is where the $$s is.

btw, the last like 20 HUSNGs I've played on Full Tilt, I haven't gotten ONE spewtard. All of the players are the same 20 into 120 sort, and it's driving me bonkers.

Barry
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Old 10-12-2007, 11:05 AM
Vinetou Vinetou is offline
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Default Re: NLTRN - Halp! How to handle spewtards?

I figured if you are OOP, suited connectors are less playable because they will bet a lot, won't fold if you decide to semibluff with your draw and if you decide to play it passively, they will make you pay for it. You will often be in a tough situation postflop and you won't know what to do with your draw or bottom pair. I think that high cards go way up in value against these guys. I would rather call a raise OOP with A2o than 67s against these guys (against other people it is vice versa). Don't call a lot of raises OOP against them. Trap them when you have a hand. Don't try to playback at them because they won't fold. Trap them. When the blinds reach high levels because you didn't have a hand to trap them, go into your general push or fold strategy.

I hope I am talking about the same kind of villain than you. I feel I donked too much money to those guys by calling raises with SC's. Just an idea.
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Old 10-12-2007, 03:12 PM
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I figured if you are OOP, suited connectors are less playable because they will bet a lot, won't fold if you decide to semibluff with your draw and if you decide to play it passively, they will make you pay for it. You will often be in a tough situation postflop and you won't know what to do with your draw or bottom pair. I think that high cards go way up in value against these guys. I would rather call a raise OOP with A2o than 67s against these guys (against other people it is vice versa). Don't call a lot of raises OOP against them. Trap them when you have a hand. Don't try to playback at them because they won't fold. Trap them. When the blinds reach high levels because you didn't have a hand to trap them, go into your general push or fold strategy.

I hope I am talking about the same kind of villain than you. I feel I donked too much money to those guys by calling raises with SC's. Just an idea.

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Yes, calling with SCs against spewtards who min raise and make small bets on the flop and don't serve you implied odds, especially in HUSNGs where stacks are shallow, is a spew. High cards, OTOH, have tremendous value and I will call with K7s and what not liberally at 15/30 or 20/40, with pretty good results.

Barry
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Old 10-12-2007, 03:31 PM
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Default Re: NLTRN - Halp! How to handle spewtards?

Even A2 is profitable to call against them, I think.
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