Got myself into a bda spot in BvB

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Thx for the last 3 posts.
My ranges for hime were:
Pre: nearly everything
Flop: ^^
Turn: We can narrow down his range, some 2 barrels, 77-99 and 50% TT+, some 5`s
River: some 3barrels, some 5`s and perhaps some TT+

I doubt he bets his 77-99 and also his JJ+ are getting better as bluffcatcher.
Both draws missed completely, and i have to face 2 overcards after flop.

What you think about these thoughts?

[Fistdantilus]

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I said in the headline i misplayed this hand.

@Winningfish: Do you have anything to contribute?

How can anyone fold flop here?
The spot where it gets difficult is the river.

If someone really think flop or turn is a fold, i would like to hear the reasons.

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While we all misplay hands, this one shows a very expensive lack of understanding: you can't float someone who will continually fire barrels at you. It's literally a guessing game.

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23/17/3

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Against complete stations, your earn comes from value betting and their overcalling. Against maniacs, you wait for a strong hand and let him throw his stack away. While those two are polarized* examples, you apply those concepts along a continuum to other opponents. This opponent is aggressive, so your strategy is to wait for a larger hand because you know he will be voluntarily putting in money with a worse one.

I could give you ranges, and tell you about how your RIOs are crushing you, but none of that crap matters if you continually get in this situation to being with.

*this seems to be the word of the week. =)

Edit: grammars r hard

[AP81]

I think you should fold the river usually, but a call isn't too bad either. Will he bet Tx for value here? If he does it makes it much harder to call him down since he can be value betting a lot more hands. If his range at this point is Jx and overpairs, you can probably look him up.

[Logun]

do you often see 3 barrel bluff BvB?

[mythrilfox]

there is so much retarded misinformation in this thread. fold everywhere? wtf?

[AP81]

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do you often see 3 barrel bluff BvB?

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Depends on the player, but for any reasonably aggressive player this board is great to c-bet, awesome to double barrell, and even better to triple barrell. I definitely play the flop and turn the same as OP, and like I said the river could go either way. Definitely not an obvious fold and not an easy call either. Extremely read/flop dependant which only OP can really be the judge of.

[Hoopster81]

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obv preflop and flop are fine

with your read I'd fold the turn sometimes and the river the other times

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Ooops, I have to take this back

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Fold preflop for sure

[Boquense]

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4 folds, V raises to 35, hero calls with Ah6s

Flop:
5c5d 6c
V bets 55,

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Pretty easy flop fold

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Is this a level?

There are times and opponents that I could definitely call all 3 streets here. River looks bad in this hand though, just doesn't feel like he's bluffing.

[cashy]

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4 folds, V raises to 35, hero calls with Ah6s

Flop:
5c5d 6c
V bets 55,

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Pretty easy flop fold

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Is this a level?



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