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Old 11-08-2007, 04:45 PM
Hattifnatt Hattifnatt is offline
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Default KK UTG+2

Live tournament with a quite small buy-in. 7k startchips, 33 entries, 7k start chips, 4 prizes.

First period, maybe 10 minutes or so into the tournament and 32 of the 33 players are left in the tournament.

UTG is a pretty straightforward player, maybe a little on the loose side. UTG+1 is a solid cash game player that likes to see flops and have a good basic understanding for tournaments. If he called here his range woulda been very wide but sinse he 3-bet I think his range is pretty tight, something like AK, AQs+, TT+.

Hero has a pretty tight image in both Villians eyes, at least for the early stages of tournaments. I have not been involved in any pots yet in except completing from the SB two times in unraised pots and folded on the flop.

Stacks:
UTG: 6800
UTG+1: 7000
Hero: 6900

25/50, 8 players

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG raises to 150, UTG+1 raises to 400, Hero..?

Extra questions:

What do you prefer if the blinds and raises was the double ie.

Hypotetic:

50/100, 8 players

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG raises to 300, UTG+1 raises to 800, Hero..?

What if the blinds was 100/200 and UTG raises 600 and UTG+1 1600?

Same stack sizes in the two extra examples.

EDIT: Fixed title.
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: KK UTG+1

put in another raise , first to 1750, second example shove

live players suck especially considering it is a relatively small buy in.
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: KK UTG+1

live players suck but the def 3 bet wayyyy tighter, and its kk so rr again
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Old 11-08-2007, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: KK UTG+1

1) raising more than 1200 is a mistake here. I like raising to 1k. That would make the pot ~2500 on the flop and I dont think that UTG can call. One solid flop bet (1500-2k) and we are committed on the turn for a nice <PSB shove.
2) I make it 2400. Shove flop.
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Old 11-09-2007, 09:08 AM
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no merits in calling in any of the three examples? not bec we are afraid of aces but bec getting action from other hands than aces since raising an UTG raiser and UTG+1 reraiser shows lots of strength.
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Old 11-09-2007, 10:14 AM
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Default Re: KK UTG+1

I'm obv way more likely to 4 bet example one than 3. I don't mind a call in 3.

Edit: thought example 3 was 2, didn't see the 2nd. This is what you get when you post/play halo at same time.
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Old 11-10-2007, 09:18 AM
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rr him and be prepared to GII
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: KK UTG+2

Call, call, shove.
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