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02-14-2007, 07:41 AM
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Am I meant to fold these rivers? BB vs SB
Folded to SB who is a 32/22/2 LAG type, and not great postflop.
He raises and I call in the BB with K7 of clubs. Flop comes T 6 3, two clubs. He bets, I raise, he calls. Turn is offsuit K. Check, bet, call. River is an offsuit A. He bets. Just under 6-1 to look him up. Call? Guy. 
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#3
02-14-2007, 03:16 PM
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Re: Am I meant to fold these rivers? BB vs SB
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wow, absolutwly call. [/ QUOTE ]
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02-14-2007, 03:29 PM
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Re: Am I meant to fold these rivers? BB vs SB
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He's probably betting his weak 1 pair (not ace or King), so do maximum extractimum = Raise, fold to 3bet. [/ QUOTE ] Raising the river would be horrible IMO.
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#6
02-14-2007, 06:41 PM
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Re: Am I meant to fold these rivers? BB vs SB
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Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- He's probably betting his weak 1 pair (not ace or King), so do maximum extractimum = Raise, fold to 3bet. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Raising the river would be horrible IMO. [/ QUOTE ]
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#7
02-14-2007, 03:52 PM
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Re: Am I meant to fold these rivers? BB vs SB
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[ QUOTE ] wow, absolutwly call. [/ QUOTE ] [/ QUOTE ] double quote!
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#8
02-14-2007, 06:33 PM
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Re: Am I meant to fold these rivers? BB vs SB
Well hell yes I call. I also lose. Very very often.
How small would the pot need to be for you to fold? Guy.
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#9
02-14-2007, 06:42 PM
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Re: Am I meant to fold these rivers? BB vs SB
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How small would the pot need to be for you to fold? [/ QUOTE ] This is way closer than the feedback indicates in my opinion. There are certain guys that just always have an Ace there and I can fold and sleep like a baby. Against an unknown I would call, but his hand looks a whole lot he has weak showdown value prior to the river and he shouldnt be donking that river with a small pair. That leaves him with a dreaded rivered pair of Aces very, very often.
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#10
02-14-2007, 07:06 PM
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Re: Am I meant to fold these rivers? BB vs SB
You have to call here imo simply because there are so many hands in his range that either flopped or turned a straight draw: 24s, 25s, 45, 47, 57, 78, 79, 89, 9J, 9Q, JQ. Most of these hands are probably in this guys sb openraising range. Then on top of this, he could have flopped a flush draw -- this adds a lot of combinations because he is opening most suited hands from the sb (although there are a bunch of lags who would never play a flush draw this passively so we could discount these hands against such players). It isn't like the board is 227Kr. Villain knows that his hand looks a lot like Ax to you so it is not unlikely that he will bluff at this particular river getting the attractive price of 5:1. Then there is also the remote possibility that he has something like 22 or 43s and is bluffing despite having some showdown value.
I would probably call this river getting as little as 2:1 or 3:1. Getting 6:1 its an easy call imo.
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