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Old 05-13-2007, 03:04 PM
Senator7 Senator7 is offline
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Just trying to get some fresh ideas in preparation for my NFL capping. Are the books by JR Miller and Jim Feist/Kelso Sturgeon worth the price of admission?

I know Nick Christenson (whose reviews I like and respect) gave both of them a lukewarm review. Anybody have any additional opinions or reviews of these two books?
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Old 05-13-2007, 09:43 PM
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What's the name of the Jim Feist/Kelso Sturgeon book?

You'll want to read any you can get your hands on, but keep an open mind while reading them.

No one book is perfect, and no one person is perfect. Build a toolkit based on the ideas of people that have been in the trenches before to prepare yourself for the season.

Also consider taking a look at Pro Football Prospectus (doesn't come out until July), and I'll also be updating SPFH. Downloadable first edition is in the FAQ.
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Old 05-13-2007, 11:40 PM
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Feist/Sturgeon book is called The Complete Guide To Football Betting. Its available at Gambler's Book Shop.

Are the books by Bob McCune any good?

Is JR Miller's book worth the price?

Most of these books are only available at the Gambler's Book Shop and its tough to find people who have read them to give a review.

I had already planned to get the Pro Football Prospectus.

Thanks for your help and insight, rjp.
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Old 05-13-2007, 11:58 PM
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It depends on how much you're wagering.

In most cases, it's worth getting all the books to gain insight in different areas of handicapping.

I'd personally go with Sharp Sports Betting, JR Miller's book (ignore flat betting/bad kelly criterion logic), and Dan Gordon's Beat the Sports Books (a few issues in this book but some good advice specific to handicapping). Never read the Fiest/Sturgeon book, so I need to pick that up. Oh, and download the first edition of my e-Book at: http://performify.com/Smart_Pro_Foot...ndicapping.zip

McCune's Education of a Sports Bettor is old, but a decent read.

The funny thing about handicapping/betting books is that as long as you pickup just one or two good tips/ideas/etc you'll likely recover the cost of the book.
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Old 05-14-2007, 12:35 AM
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I already had your e-book and I was quite impressed with it.

I added Lem Banker's book and a couple books by Robert Ross to my wish list as well.

Have already read Sharp Sports Betting and Beat The Sportsbooks. I thought they were pretty good.

I plan on getting JR Miller's book soon.

Thanks again for your help. I'm not a newbie to sportsbetting, but I wanted to check out some books and I really didn't know where to start.
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Old 05-14-2007, 09:16 AM
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The Miller book is superb. Worth more than the price. However, its better to learn from the book and apply your knowledge on other sports than american football.

It is by far the most difficult marked to make money on. I will advise you start betting on NBA, MLB and especially football and tennis.
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Old 05-14-2007, 12:10 PM
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I already bet baseball.

I've been betting sports for six years. I just want to check out some books and I wasn't sure where to start.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:45 PM
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Default Re: Football Books...

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The Miller book is superb. Worth more than the price. However, its better to learn from the book and apply your knowledge on other sports than american football.

It is by far the most difficult marked to make money on. I will advise you start betting on NBA, MLB and especially football and tennis.

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i'll have to respectfully disagree on the miller book. From what I've seen out of JR, he himself looks like a coinflipper in the NFL even though he has this simple little method in chapter two which he says should hit 54% over the long term.. yeah right, you aren't going to do any better than 50% with that method I would say, plus it leads to highly innacurate score predictions.
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Old 05-16-2007, 05:58 PM
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I once bought a JR Miller book. If I can find it, I'll send you the piece of bile. Private email me with your email address.
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