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Old 11-30-2007, 02:25 PM
Xylocain Xylocain is offline
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Default Re: Raise to protect T top pair on a 3 flush flop?

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I raise the flop for value and protection, if someone is folding 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] or a K, Q or J thats awesome, of they have A or K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] they are never folding anyway.
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Old 11-30-2007, 02:34 PM
ProfLupin ProfLupin is offline
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Default Re: Raise to protect T top pair on a 3 flush flop?

I think I'm in agreement with Sarge...but it depends on the type of table you're at. First of all, I'd fold this preflop...are people showing long term profit with AT UTG at full tables?

Now that you're in the hand I think I call the flop and see what happens. Was this a loose/passive-ish table or are some of the players acting behind you TAGish?
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Old 11-30-2007, 02:55 PM
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Default Re: Raise to protect T top pair on a 3 flush flop?

ftr, i open ATo utg. against bad opponents your raise is for value. folding is fine, however.

not sure why you all think raising doesn't protect our hand. laying 11:2 is a lot different than laying 11:1. basically, what xylo said.
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Old 11-30-2007, 04:37 PM
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Default Re: Raise to protect T top pair on a 3 flush flop?

I usually fold this guy preflop.

The flop is a raise. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:03 PM
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Default Re: Raise to protect T top pair on a 3 flush flop?

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ftr, i open ATo utg. against bad opponents your raise is for value. folding is fine, however.

not sure why you all think raising doesn't protect our hand. laying 11:2 is a lot different than laying 11:1. basically, what xylo said.

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Mostly because it's rare to fold any diamond at the micros when there are 3 on the board.
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Old 11-30-2007, 05:49 PM
tyler_cracker tyler_cracker is offline
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Default Re: Raise to protect T top pair on a 3 flush flop?

i've seen bad players fold a low diamond here. if not, oh well; you were raising for value anyway.
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:09 PM
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Default Re: Raise to protect T top pair on a 3 flush flop?

i fold preflop too.. u must be pretty laggy to raise this utg in FR?
flop i think raise>call>fold
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Old 12-01-2007, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: Raise to protect T top pair on a 3 flush flop?

I have no problem at this level playing a10 utg in fr for a raise, heck its great training for 6 max.

its loose sure but hands like these are great for learning.

Obviously someone could have flopped a flush, the donk from sb though is usually suspect and I would reraise here on the flop.

If others call I am pretty sure I need a good turn card to lead. Obviously a ten would be great. If sb 3 bets the flop then depending on my read of him I may consider a peel.
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