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Old 09-30-2007, 11:38 PM
FionnMac FionnMac is offline
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Default Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot

Sorry if this is standard, but i wasn't sure what the best line is here. Villain is a standard TAG, 19/17, this is the first (or second possibly) that i've 3-bet him pf. What is standard here?

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Hero ($1166.20)
SB ($724.01)
BB ($433.20)
UTG ($573.70)
MP ($119.15)
CO ($403.35)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $14</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $52</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $38.

Flop: ($110) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
CO checks, Hero?
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Old 09-30-2007, 11:50 PM
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Default Re: Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot

bet, u still dont want to show down 6 high
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Old 09-30-2007, 11:52 PM
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Default Re: Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot

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bet, u still dont want to show down 6 high

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how much? and someone do the maths for me, can i call a shove?
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Old 10-01-2007, 12:11 AM
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Default Re: Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot

70 and fold to a push.
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Old 10-01-2007, 12:16 AM
KeanuReaver KeanuReaver is offline
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Default Re: Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot

sucks that one of those cards isn't a club
if you bet and he shoves, you'll be getting right at 2:1 on your money. i would think the size of your 3bet is enough to get 33 and 44 to fold, so i think a reasonable push range for him would be 99+ in which case you've got right at 33% equity which is just enough to call.

to avoid it being more of a pain than it should be, pot it so you'll be getting over 2:1
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Old 10-01-2007, 12:21 AM
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Default Re: Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot

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sucks that one of those cards isn't a club
if you bet and he shoves, you'll be getting right at 2:1 on your money. i would think the size of your 3bet is enough to get 33 and 44 to fold, so i think a reasonable push range for him would be 99+ in which case you've got right at 33% equity which is just enough to call.

to avoid it being more of a pain than it should be, pot it so you'll be getting over 2:1

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villain is pretty solid/nitty so he almost never has 33/44, the only type of hand i may have fe against imo is AQ etc
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Old 10-01-2007, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot

Woops, thought you were 160BB deep for some reason.

Yeah if you bet $100 you should be able to call a push, also considering your pair outs might be good if he's a stupid bluffer.
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Old 10-01-2007, 12:23 AM
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Default Re: Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot

I dont mind a flop check, bet turn if checked to again (this is also a good board to check back AA once in a while too fwiw)
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Old 10-01-2007, 12:26 AM
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Default Re: Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot

the difference between a bet of 80 and a bet of 110 on the flop is likely also the difference between convincing 77, 88 and maybe even TT that their hand isn't any good.
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Old 10-01-2007, 10:34 AM
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Default Re: Slightly lost with oesd in 3-bet pot

Umm i'm still not sure about this hand, obv if i bet $100 i'm priced in to calling a shove, but that's pretty bad for metagame since i'd almost never do that with any other hand.

My line was - check behind, flat call his bet on a 6h turn, and fold to a shove on a K river - how was it?
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