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Old 08-21-2007, 12:48 AM
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Default I hate river $10nl

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($4.05)
MP ($6.45)
CO ($10.15)
Button ($5.30)
SB ($13.60)
Hero ($10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls $0.10, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $0.5</font>, CO calls $0.30, SB folds.

Flop: ($1) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $0.8</font>, CO calls $0.80.

Turn: ($2.60) 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.2</font>, CO calls $2.20.

River: ($7) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1</font>, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises to $6.75 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $3.25

villin is 21/8 over 200 hands... aggre factor by street is 50/45/64

River bet was a blocking bet i.e. I hope he calls and no raises... check/fold better here?
certainly not another pot sized bet?
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:35 AM
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Default Re: I hate river $10nl

I personally hate blocking bets because they look so damn weak and almost always get raised. As played I would personally check fold this river. Definitely can find a better spot to put your stack in.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:38 AM
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Default Re: I hate river $10nl

LOL im not 100% but you were at that table i believe dont think villian though

pretty sure c/f is right here just i know check invites a bluff which I cant call
I hthink the $1 did nothing since it looks almost as weak..
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:43 AM
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Default Re: I hate river $10nl

I think there is a high likelihood that he was chasing and hit. He definitely made some bad calls if that's the case, and I think you made a good fold. With four clubs on the board and your opponent calling so much, and then shoving, I think the fold is a good move here.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:44 AM
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Default Re: I hate river $10nl

He is right though, that last 1 dollar bet is just plain pointless.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:49 AM
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Default Re: I hate river $10nl

What is your sn? I will tell you if I was there. Was playing a bunch of tables so I don't remember the hand.
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:53 AM
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Default Re: I hate river $10nl

eh if you want to discuss poker im up for it on aim or whatever
I am trying to grind my way up usually actual bankroll management... its odd for me
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Old 08-21-2007, 01:56 AM
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Drop me a line at DaProdigalSon14. I'm about to hit the sack but feel free to msg me anytime. I'm always down to talk poker.
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Old 08-21-2007, 03:02 AM
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Default Re: I hate river $10nl

Grunch:

Preflop: I like a bigger raise here - 4xBB + 1 per limper (including SB). I will also throw in another BB since CO has position. So anywhwere from .60 to .70

Flop: Standard cbet. I tend to lean on the upper side of the cbet range (3/4 - full pot) when the flop is drawy (as this one is). This bet is fine

Turn: Here we start getting a little ansy. We put in a sizeable bet relative to the pot as well as the stacks/buyin and CO is not going away. CO is relatively tight both preflop and post (I am assuming that the AF numbers are .50/.45/.64)

River: Blah! As played you have to fold this (I am assuming that the 64 on the river is a .64). I actually check this, hoping that an unaggressive villain looks to get some value out of this and throws a small ($1-$2) value bet out there. So as played, you probably save money with your bet/fold. If Villain had a high AF then our small blocking bet (which screams "I'm weak") would not be appropriate here.
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