The Life Cycle of a Poker Player (and my thoughts on live vs online)

[DontRaiseMeBro]

kenny sure did pick off the river bluff that knocked him out of the main event..

[EWS87]

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well, for six months, Viffer had a policy of never bluffing Kenny. That is, if he bet big on the river against Kenny, he was never bluffing. For him, that was optimal... if Kenny knows when you're bluffing, your optimal bluffing percentage is 0. Something like that just makes no sense in the context of online poker.

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having any percentage of a certain play at 0 can not be anything close to optimal no matter what

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If your cards are face up (essentially what hes saying) yes it is.

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but the cards arent face up...especially after a few months of kenny knowing he wont bluff him

[LazyBob]

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well, for six months, Viffer had a policy of never bluffing Kenny. That is, if he bet big on the river against Kenny, he was never bluffing. For him, that was optimal... if Kenny knows when you're bluffing, your optimal bluffing percentage is 0. Something like that just makes no sense in the context of online poker.

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having any percentage of a certain play at 0 can not be anything close to optimal no matter what

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If your cards are face up (essentially what hes saying) yes it is.

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but the cards arent face up...especially after a few months of kenny knowing he wont bluff him

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If Kenny always knows when your bluffing optimal bluffing percentage is 0.

[feesjah]

good article, thx

[hate_dr_dre]

totally awesome article

[Bonified]

Very interesting read. Although this is ridiculously small-sample and anecdotal, I wonder about the stress/ageing point. It's remarkable how many of my poker-playing friends around the same age (late 30s early 40s) look much, much younger. Then again, none of us have any kids, that might also be a factor :-)

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I didn't read all the replies so I don't know if this has been said and i suspect it has, but isn't it possible that a federer or 'perfect' player of poker has actually evolved but can't gain near perfect results or results as good as federer due to the luck and swings involved in poker?


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Yeah, that's Hellmuth [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

[RonWR]

If fold equity against one of the players at the table is a complete 0 dosnt that make even sitting at the table a huge -ev decision? how can you win money that way?

[raptor517]

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If fold equity against one of the players at the table is a complete 0 dosnt that make even sitting at the table a huge -ev decision? how can you win money that way?

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how can u win money against someone that never folds? really?

[Melchiades]

Think we got a good example of how sick good live players can play the river on the first hand of HSP last night.

[davmcg]

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well, for six months, Viffer had a policy of never bluffing Kenny. That is, if he bet big on the river against Kenny, he was never bluffing. For him, that was optimal... if Kenny knows when you're bluffing, your optimal bluffing percentage is 0. Something like that just makes no sense in the context of online poker.

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having any percentage of a certain play at 0 can not be anything close to optimal no matter what

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If your cards are face up (essentially what hes saying) yes it is.

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but the cards arent face up...especially after a few months of kenny knowing he wont bluff him

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If Kenny always knows when your bluffing optimal bluffing percentage is 0.

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The only way your bluffing % can be zero is if you only bet when you have the nuts - doesn't that present a few problems?