AK (aka I never fold)

Andrew Karpinski · #1 05-18-2006, 04:59 PM

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Preflop: Hero is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, MP calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, MP raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero calls.

River: (7.25 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets, Hero raises, MP 3-bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB

ILOVEPOKER929 · #2 05-18-2006, 05:15 PM

Against normal opponents, I would bet the river, but If we have a read that this guy is retarded, I can see going for the checkraise.

I play this hand the same except I usually bet the river, but If I did checkraise, I am folding to a 3bet never against an unknown. But the thing is I would never checkraise this river against an unknown, I would only checkraise this river against the type of opponent where calling a 3bet is super easy.

The Bryce · #3 05-18-2006, 05:53 PM

This is an automatic river donk, and unless you're not telling us something important it's also the easiest river muck ever when he 3 bets.

ILOVEPOKER929 · #4 05-18-2006, 05:56 PM

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This is an automatic river donk, and unless you're not telling us something important it's also the easiest river muck ever when he 3 bets.

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Against an unknown, this is an automatic river donk, against most player types this is an automatic river donk. But there are a small percentage of clueless aggressive retards where I would checkraise this river and expect to be called or 3bet by a worse hand.

kiddo · #5 05-18-2006, 06:35 PM

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Against normal opponents, I would bet the river, but If we have a read that this guy is retarded, I can see going for the checkraise.

I play this hand the same except I usually bet the river, but If I did checkraise, I am folding to a 3bet never against an unknown. But the thing is I would never checkraise this river against an unknown, I would only checkraise this river against the type of opponent where calling a 3bet is super easy.

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good post

Nate tha\\\' Great · #6 05-18-2006, 08:50 PM

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This is an automatic river donk, and unless you're not telling us something important it's also the easiest river muck ever when he 3 bets.

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I don't think the muck is at all easy. In fact I think it's a call as played. I'll pay to see his ochos.

Alobar · #7 05-18-2006, 09:25 PM

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This is an automatic river donk,

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If we are donking this river because we think we just outdrew him, then why are we calling down? And if we are calling down because we think there is a good enough chance he is bluffing, then why are we donking this river?

The Bryce · #8 05-18-2006, 09:36 PM

I guess I'm just used to playing against opponents who aren't blind. I'd be pretty impressed with the state of Party Poker if it was "correct" to pay that off.

Alobar · #9 05-18-2006, 11:17 PM

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I guess I'm just used to playing against opponents who aren't blind. I'd be pretty impressed with the state of Party Poker if it was "correct" to pay that off.

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Im not refering to calling the 3 bet

Andrew Karpinski · #10 05-18-2006, 11:25 PM

Results :

He had AJ.