i think i may be weak.

paoul · #1 10-19-2007, 11:36 PM

i had no reads. i thought this was a good fold at the time now i think it was awful.

Full Tilt Poker, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
LegoPoker Hand History Converter

BTN: $14.95
SB: $3.90
Hero (BB): $10
UTG: $11.55
CO: $14

Pre-Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] dealt to Hero (BB)
UTG calls $0.10, 2 folds, SB calls $0.05, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.30) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.60, UTG raises to $1.10, SB raises to $3.80 and is All-In, 2 folds

Results: $3.10 Pot ($0.30 Rake)
SB mucked and WON $2.80 (+$1.60 NET)

jerryf1914 · #2 10-19-2007, 11:41 PM

i think it was a good fold. that hand isn't good with that flop and 2 people betting like that. i always lose when i have 45 on that board.

castigar · #3 10-19-2007, 11:45 PM

Way too weak. You can't fold a flopped straight on a non mono board. And of the story.

Lego05 · #4 10-19-2007, 11:54 PM

Yea...you aren't gonna win an overwhelming amount of the time I don't think....but I think it's +ev to get it in here. You certainly should have at least gotten it in vs. sb. So instead of folding I woulda shoved.

DblBarrelJ · #5 10-19-2007, 11:56 PM

Tough call. Part of me wants to push here, hoping to isolate SB, but then again, I'm not sure of the probability of UTG folding.

Thats a pretty tough call with no reads, I'd feel much more comfortable with some type of range for UTG.

I don't really know what to think of SB, this:

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 SB bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.60, UTG raises to $1.10, SB raises to $3.80 and is All-In 

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doesn't make sense.

The mini-bet/push seems weak, so I think our hand is good against SB, but without reads on UTG, I'm unsure. Why wouldn't SB just go for a c/r instead of that. It smells of a desperation bluff.

Basically, I push if I think UTG will fold and fold if I think UTG will call my push or reraise me AI after I call SB's push. I don't see UTG calling off a 100bb+ stack against 2 opponents without T9.

Chxdgt · #6 10-19-2007, 11:58 PM

I probably shove here... it's true that you have the "sucker" side of the straight, but I have a hard time giving villain credit for the one hand that's ahead of you. More likely you've got the best hand and you're up against a straight or flush draw. You're approximately a coin-flip against a nightmare draw like A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], so I get it in here.

Of course, there's the short stack... but I shove this flop against a shorty all day [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

cooker3 · #7 10-20-2007, 12:06 AM

Go broke please. So many combo draws and sets that you beat

Kasane · #8 10-20-2007, 01:28 AM

Yup, folding is weak here. You can push once shorty does. Shorty can have anything from a bare draw, to a one pp hand. UTG is likely to have something, but he could even have top set or AKs draw and you're equity wise fine. T9 is the one hand that you're afraid of, and that's way down on the curve.

This was a bad, bad fold. You many have had something like 80%+ equity (note: calc partly based on results).

Peleus · #9 10-20-2007, 01:31 AM

Please never fold here again.

You're folding with the 2nd nuts. Thats called seeing monsters under the bed.

Sets and over pairs act like this at 10nl as well.

Lego05 · #10 10-20-2007, 01:32 AM

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Please never fold here again.

You're folding with the 2nd nuts. Thats called seeing monsters under the bed.

Sets and over pairs act like this at 10nl as well.

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3rd nuts actually....but yea, still