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Old 01-04-2007, 01:11 AM
cwar cwar is offline
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Default $50nl - AJ vs. Insane Clown Posse

Villain is 80/30 and aggressive postflop turn check was very questionable IMO.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $52.70
UTG+1: $14.90
CO: $65.20
Button: $48.15
Hero: $49.50
BB: $19.75

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
3 folds, Button calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $2.5</font>, BB calls, Button calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($7.5, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $6</font>, BB folds, Button calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($19.5, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button is all-in $39.65</font>, Hero folds.
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Old 01-04-2007, 02:44 AM
Check_The_Nuts Check_The_Nuts is offline
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Default Re: $50nl - AJ vs. Insane Clown Posse

I call. Your range almost never likes that Q...
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Old 01-04-2007, 03:00 AM
VorShot VorShot is offline
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Default Re: $50nl - AJ vs. Insane Clown Posse

Well what hands could he have?

If he's really aggressive post flop, what does he normally do when you bet the flop? raise? call and bet turn?

If he has a flush, you have 7 outs to the nuts.
that's like a 14%, and you're behind.

Since you checked the turn, and he shoved, doesn't look like a flush..but that doesn't mean it isn't. He has position so i don't know why he would make a bet you couldn't call, but i think i call and outdraw his Queen.
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Old 01-04-2007, 04:13 AM
biblo22 biblo22 is offline
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Default Re: $50nl - AJ vs. Insane Clown Posse

someone as crazy as that is going to bet everytime hes checked to at these limits i think u have to bet that turn, he could literally have anything theres no reason to think the Q helped him.

althought it sucks making a bet that u expect wil get shoved on i think make it like 14 on the turn and call a shove this will give u like 3:1 to call and id say other than ur flush outs alot of the time i think you'll find you have got another 5 in aces and jacks.
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Old 01-04-2007, 04:25 AM
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Default Re: $50nl - AJ vs. Insane Clown Posse

Lead out the turn and see what he does in response, by checking you let him put the pressure on you. Betting out is a better option and then go from your opponents response to your bet.
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Old 01-04-2007, 04:53 AM
CaseS87 CaseS87 is offline
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Default Re: $50nl - AJ vs. Insane Clown Posse

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Betting out is a better option and then go from your opponents response to your bet.

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against this player i dont even think you can bet/fold. i like the check, not with the intention of keeping the pot small, but to sort of trap the guy into making a crazy bluff. i call and i dont feel bad if im behind.
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Old 01-04-2007, 08:12 AM
pineapple888 pineapple888 is offline
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Default Re: $50nl - AJ vs. Insane Clown Posse

Dude, there is no objectively correct answer here, you just have to go with your read at the table, "aggressive postflop" is way too vague for us to help IMHO, same thing with the flop and turn lines really.
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Old 01-04-2007, 12:01 PM
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Default Re: $50nl - AJ vs. Insane Clown Posse

Well I was 8 tabling and I had noticed recently a lot of betting by him postflop, nothing specific.
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Old 01-04-2007, 12:32 PM
_Sundance _Sundance is offline
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Default Re: $50nl - AJ vs. Insane Clown Posse

I would probably value bet the turn here against a villian like this and call a push. If he continues with the hand I expect his range to be worse pair + heart more often than a better hand.

As played I still call expecting to see a worse hand + draw a good enough percentage of the time despite the flop call.
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