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Old 12-28-2006, 03:41 PM
Praetor Praetor is offline
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Default 2/4 NL i dont think he has anything..

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($429.40)
Hero ($468.78)
SB ($824)
BB ($190)
UTG ($740.38)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, SB (poster) calls $14, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($36) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $66</font>, SB calls $46.

Turn: ($168) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $105</font>, SB calls $105.

River: ($378) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero?


On a previous hand he led into my pfr and I folded so I decied to play back

how is the play up until river? spew?

given flop and turn play, should I shove river?
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Old 12-28-2006, 03:48 PM
therockofgibraltar therockofgibraltar is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 NL i dont think he has anything..

The flop I might play the same because of the history but I would give up on turn.
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Old 12-28-2006, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 NL i dont think he has anything..

check the turn, fire again given how we got here.
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Old 12-28-2006, 05:19 PM
cgrohman cgrohman is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 NL i dont think he has anything..

Uuuu, you can a) check and see if that J high wins or b) Bet.
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Old 12-28-2006, 05:20 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 NL i dont think he has anything..

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Uuuu, you can a) check and see if that J high wins or b) Bet.

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really?
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Old 12-28-2006, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 NL i dont think he has anything..

I like your flop play but I give up on the turn without a better read. You are going to run into a flush or a stuborn weak overpair to often. I defn check the river with only 282 behind.
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Old 12-28-2006, 05:59 PM
_Sundance _Sundance is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 NL i dont think he has anything..

If SB is solid pre/post-flop then this may be a slow-played trips gone wrong or even a big PP with a spade that he decided to trap you with.

If SB is loose post-flop then maybe add pp hands like 6s6x/4s4x . Not sure he would call a big river bet....

If SB is a somewhat loose pre-flop caller then he could easily have the nut/strong flush here, e.g. he called with As7x or AsXs. Strange for him to check the river but maybe he reads you for nothing and gives you opportunity to bluff.

So, I think I would probably only bluff a villian who is fairly tight in his pre-flop calls/defends OOP and plays a solid post-flop game. I'd be tempted to bet $200 rather than $280 you have left and fold if he pushes.
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Old 12-28-2006, 06:04 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 NL i dont think he has anything..

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I like your flop play but I give up on the turn without a better read. You are going to run into a flush or a stuborn weak overpair to often. I defn check the river with only 282 behind.

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But is it not an unusual line for villian to take if he has flush? You don't like the push because we don't get folds often enough?
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Old 12-28-2006, 06:05 PM
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Default Re: 2/4 NL i dont think he has anything..

i'd raise more on the flop, cause i'd rarely raise so little with a real hand, but otherwise it is fine.. and I would check the river.
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Old 12-28-2006, 06:19 PM
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i'd raise more on the flop, cause i'd rarely raise so little with a real hand, but otherwise it is fine.. and I would check the river.

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I have trouble checking behind on hands where I can't win... maybe a leak. Do we really think villian calls here &gt; 65% (approx) of time for it be bad move?
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