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Old 11-01-2007, 12:07 PM
HensonLosesLots HensonLosesLots is offline
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This is from Hendon mob poker database...I suspect that these guys are worth at least 5x as much because of cash games.

Antonio Esfandiari <- 2,790,274
Sam Farha <- 2,085,965
David Benyamine <- 1,144,122 online last year he made at least another 1,000,000
Patrik Antonius <- 2,683,442
Guy Laliberté <- billionaire
Jamie Gold <- 12,170,024 because of taxes and settlements 7 million
Doyle Brunson <- 5,277,782 thats just from tourneys 20 million + with cash games, investments and books.
Barry Greenstein <- 5,374,998 at least 20 million + also

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What you fail to understand is that not everyone wins in cash games.

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All these guys are excellent cash game players, one person on Rounders the Poker show said Antonio may be the best NL player in the world at this point. Sam Farha wins in PLO and is probably the best in that also. Who in this lineup besides Gold and Guy doesn't win in Cash games???

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It doesn't matter, you're not going to win every cash game session you play.. and probably not even 3/4. Poker is a game of luck. You can push all in preflop with AA and lose to AK .. it's the way of the game.

And if you're one of the most successful poker players, you're going to be playing against the best. So it's basically who is luckiest in any given session. And that's where people who have not played Poker for a long time see. I mean even Doyle himself confessed he's been broke 100+ times in his poker career. I'm sure he's referring to being 'poker broke' but that just goes to show the amount of variance you see after a long time.

At the stakes the best players play, it's not odd to lose half a million in a weeks time, or more. So then even having winning sessions only means you're breaking even.

I think the only real successful poker players are those who play a very limited time and also limit themselves to a buy-in or two at a time (ala Phil Ivey).
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: What are the top pros worth?

and that tournament winnings != tournament earnings?

travel
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blow

these things add up
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:16 PM
HensonLosesLots HensonLosesLots is offline
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Default Re: What are the top pros worth?

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and that tournament winnings != tournament earnings?

travel
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entries
craps
hookers
blow

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TAXES
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:41 PM
The 13th 4postle The 13th 4postle is offline
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Default Re: What are the top pros worth?

I see your guy's points but these guys have so much money that when they invest it they get big returns. Also do you think these guys could handle 500,000 day losses if they didn't have more then 10 million? They didn't get to where they are by having poor BR management. These guys have a lot more money then you think they do.

Also they aren't playing in games with all pros, most people they play are whales. They don't make money by playing a lot of other pros at their own level.

I would bet the last time Doyle went busto was 25+ years ago.
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:47 PM
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Default Re: What are the top pros worth?

PA doesnt pay tax does he?
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Old 11-01-2007, 12:51 PM
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Default Re: What are the top pros worth?

I bet Gold is worth 3-4 million max.
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Old 11-01-2007, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: What are the top pros worth?

The Hendon mob database compiles total prize money won at tournaments. It does not compile total winnings minus total buy-ins and thus is not giving anything close to an accurate picture of how much a player is up in tournaments over their career.
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Old 11-01-2007, 06:08 PM
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Default Re: What are the top pros worth?

wonder if andy beal was invited to play?
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Old 11-01-2007, 06:15 PM
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LOL at thinking Barry G is worth more than 20 million. He is probably as close to busto as any of the ultra high limit players right now.
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Old 11-02-2007, 12:23 AM
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LOL at thinking Barry G is worth more than 20 million. He is probably as close to busto as any of the ultra high limit players right now.

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Thanks for opening the books mr accountant!!
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