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Old 07-16-2007, 02:12 PM
Scary_Tiger Scary_Tiger is offline
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Preflop is standard.

Turn is definitely a call guys.

Flop is closer than turn but still a call.

River is harsh, but 3-way I think I fold.

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If you're going to fold the river 3-way after spiking one of your outs, why are you calling the turn? Raise the turn to force BB to call two? Otherwise, call turn, fold river when we hit a pair seems weird...are you only drawing the A + gutter?

I still like a turn fold.

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Jacks were never anything more than a partial out.
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Old 07-16-2007, 08:45 PM
TwoCathedrals TwoCathedrals is offline
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fold preflop, fold flop

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wow I feel stupid, I didn't see this was 4-handed and not 6-handed [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

I'd fold the turn
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Old 07-16-2007, 09:00 PM
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im with S_T on this hand every street
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:06 PM
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Default Re: find a fold?

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Preflop is standard.

Turn is definitely a call guys.

Flop is closer than turn but still a call.

River is harsh, but 3-way I think I fold.

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Old 07-17-2007, 02:08 AM
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Default Re: find a fold?

I think everything but preflop is debateable. I think a lot of times your flop call is incorrect, but w/o a read on the opponents I would peel here as well.
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Old 07-17-2007, 02:15 AM
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Default Re: find a fold?

I think turn is close, but a fold because we are not closing the action.

Edit,

I change my mind and believe that we have enough outs on avg to call with these pot odds.

River does seem like a tuff, but good fold.


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Old 07-17-2007, 03:06 AM
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I think the Turn is an easy call and the Flop is often a fold for me. Im not sure if we cant donk that River.
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:49 AM
baronzeus baronzeus is offline
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Default Re: find a fold?

you played it ok for the most part, but the river is a muck. i think i call the turn in practice but generally we can discount our 7 outs to 5 or so, and theres a chance BB has a set and is gonna pound us on the turn, so with that in mind it's possible it's a fold there.
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Old 07-17-2007, 11:56 AM
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everything up to river is pretty standard.

On the river: c/f > b/f > c/c
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Old 07-18-2007, 11:45 AM
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Default Re: find a fold?

Personally, I need AQ or better to raise this PF. If villain is typical decent player, his range UTG 4 handed is A9 up, so AJ is not good enough for a raise IMO. I would then fold to one bet on the flop with no pair no draw, especially with BB to act behind me.

However, I think it is close to a raise PF, and if so, you might as well lead out on this flop, mainly for defense. When that backfires, you are probably priced into a call, which just goes to show why it was better to just call PF... As played, I think crying calls on turn and river are probably correct (very borderline especially on river), but I hate the situation.

LESS aggression PF is the lesson here IMO.
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