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Old 08-23-2007, 06:31 AM
jjlydon2 jjlydon2 is offline
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Default 50NL: am I a hero or is this an easy easy fold?

have been playing around 1 hour at table, villian is loose passive 40/6/1.25...have seen him call preflop with ATC in and out of position. After looking at this hand I realize that I played like a total wimpola, should have raised flop but I'm curious if the turn bet is a clear fold against this opponent...is he flipping over a hand I beat here often enough for me to call/shove?

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Hero ($59.10)
Button ($49.25)
SB ($104.30)
BB ($53)
UTG ($57.65)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $2</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB calls $1.75, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $4</font>, Hero calls $2, SB calls $2.

Flop: ($12) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $3</font>, Hero calls $3, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $6</font>, BB calls $3, Hero calls $3.

Turn: ($30) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $39.5</font>, BB folds
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Old 08-23-2007, 06:59 AM
VivaHate VivaHate is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: am I a hero or is this an easy easy fold?

If he's passive and suddenly raising instead of calling and betting out on the turn then I think you're easily beat.
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Old 08-23-2007, 08:22 AM
whyzze whyzze is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: am I a hero or is this an easy easy fold?

Reraise this flop man. he made a 1/4 pot bet.

reraise and fold to a push, especially by the smallblind.
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Old 08-23-2007, 08:39 AM
bob_sacamano bob_sacamano is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: am I a hero or is this an easy easy fold?

I think you should reraise the flop, like you said. And I totally agree with Viva... passives betting is almost always a sign that you are beaten.
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Old 08-23-2007, 08:44 AM
wallenborn wallenborn is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: am I a hero or is this an easy easy fold?

You can raise the flop the first time around, but reraising is insane. I'd love to see stats on both villains. btw, but SB limpcalled PF, then check-minraised a preflop raiser on the flop, then bigbets the turn. To me that's a flopped monster, and without a read that villain is full of it, i fold here.
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Old 08-23-2007, 02:03 PM
RedBarracuda RedBarracuda is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: am I a hero or is this an easy easy fold?

it never fails to amaze me how utter donks and calling stations play according to their own needs and people don't see that..
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Old 08-23-2007, 02:21 PM
YanP YanP is offline
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Default Re: 50NL: am I a hero or is this an easy easy fold?

depending on the BB stats i might 4-bet preflop
i'd probably raise the flop too, but once that kind of resistance came in from a passive player i'm dropping it
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Old 08-23-2007, 02:40 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: am I a hero or is this an easy easy fold?

4b pf fo sho, raise flop, fold turn

villain's range dominates JJ badly
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Old 08-23-2007, 02:51 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: am I a hero or is this an easy easy fold?

good fold.
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:17 PM
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Default Re: 50NL: am I a hero or is this an easy easy fold?

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it never fails to amaze me how utter donks and calling stations play according to their own needs and people don't see that..

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Care to expound? Thx
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