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Old 11-22-2007, 06:18 AM
WantToLearn WantToLearn is offline
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Default NL25 late blind --> two pair --> villain wants to play --> ugly river

Ok, here is another two pair hand that met some resistance.
How´s my line?

<u>reads:</u> villain is unknown

<u>questions:</u>
1. Turn bet size acceptable?
2. River fold acceptable?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG+1 ($52.20)
MP1 ($14.40)
MP2 ($28.95)
MP3 ($25.60)
Hero ($28.40)
Button ($24.65)
SB ($11.50)
BB ($21.45)
UTG ($24.50)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.25, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($1) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $1</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, SB calls $3.

Turn: ($9) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $3.25</font>, SB calls $3.25.

<font color="blue"> I bet small because I feel like I can get it in later on most rivers, even draw-like rivers, given ratio pot/remaining effective stack, barring only the worst ones. I rather want him to stay with a Jack first and feel committed later. </font>

River: ($15.50) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $4 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

<font color="blue"> Now this is a bad river indeed. I really don´t have to be good very often. I see, however, nothing that I beat here. </font>
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Old 11-22-2007, 09:01 AM
CaptVimes CaptVimes is offline
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Default Re: NL25 late blind --> two pair --> villain wants to play --> ugly river

Shove the turn. Villain is short make him commit his stack on the turn. On the river I think your beat a lot of the time. Don't know how you don't call though getting 5to1.
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Old 11-22-2007, 09:02 AM
ShipitFMA ShipitFMA is offline
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Default Re: NL25 late blind --> two pair --> villain wants to play --> ugly ri

shove turn all day
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Old 11-22-2007, 09:05 AM
funneldave funneldave is offline
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Default Re: NL25 late blind --> two pair --> villain wants to play --> ugly river

I think against an unknown with that turn card I would be inclined to bet more and put him to a descision for his stack there and then. Not knowing where you are with him leaves a lot of rivers that will hurt you and put you in a situation like this.
Knowing me I would probably call and shout at myself after for losing to a J.
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