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Old 05-06-2007, 06:14 PM
fretelöo fretelöo is offline
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Default Re: [.25/.50] I have TPWK and don\'t remember what to do with it

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pf fold would be beyond awful

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QFT!!!!!!!
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Old 05-06-2007, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: [.25/.50] I have TPWK and don\'t remember what to do with it

yeah when I first wrote that I thought Hero was in SB, but then I saw he wasn't. Guess I forgot to change that part.

False alarm. Its goot now.
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Old 05-06-2007, 06:54 PM
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Default Re: [.25/.50] I have TPWK and don\'t remember what to do with it

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Make that flop Q a J and I like waiting for the turn to raise. As is, rasie the flop.

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Why would I take a line with more fold equity if I'm almost positive my hand is good?
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Old 05-06-2007, 07:24 PM
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Default Re: [.25/.50] I have TPWK and don\'t remember what to do with it

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Make that flop Q a J and I like waiting for the turn to raise. As is, rasie the flop.

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Why would I take a line with more fold equity if I'm almost positive my hand is good?

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I wouldn't even be sure my hand was good and any hand you beat is most likely not paying off much anyhow.

What is an unknowns 3bet range in SB if we raise from MP1?

AQ+, TT+, AQo may be a bit bold.

So the flop is AQJ and make it rainbow since it makes it slightly better for us [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

AA (1 combo)
QQ (3 combos)
JJ (1 combo)
AQ (6 combos)
11 combos beat us

KK (6 combos)
TT (6 combos)
12 combos we beat, BUT I'm not sure how often you are going to get any action at all out of TT, even on the flop, and they both have 6 out redraws.

How positive are you that your hand is good?

154,931,548 games 90.380 secs 1,714,223 games/sec

Board: Ac Qs Jd
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 46.436% 45.63% 00.80% 70697926 1245714.00 { AJs, AJo }
Hand 1: 53.564% 52.76% 00.80% 81742194 1245714.00 { TT+, AQs+, AQo+ }
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Old 05-06-2007, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: [.25/.50] I have TPWK and don\'t remember what to do with it

I call every street, bet if checked to.

WA/WB.
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Old 05-06-2007, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: [.25/.50] I have TPWK and don\'t remember what to do with it

He meant an AJ6 flop, not an AQJ flop. I wouldn't like my hand on an AQJ flop either, and I only kinda like it on an AQ6 flop. And even if I am slightly ahead, there's the problem that that Q means that QQ beats me and JJ-99 might find a fold, if his range is that wide in the first place.
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Old 05-06-2007, 07:43 PM
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Default Re: [.25/.50] I have TPWK and don\'t remember what to do with it

you are waiting to raise on a good card, but the problem is that he won't do you the favor of betting his worse hands again. so if he has KK, he just checks the turn. you only get to raise the turn when he decides to bet after you both call.
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Old 05-06-2007, 08:03 PM
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Not sure if I understand that right. You're saying that a turn raise is no good because villain is only betting a better hand on the turn?
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Old 05-06-2007, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: [.25/.50] I have TPWK and don\'t remember what to do with it

*Grunch*
Without reads or at least table reads, this is almost impossible to answer.
Call this down like WA/WB is standard. WTF raising the turn? Raise the river if you think there oughta be one more bet in the game. (But I dont think so.)

PS: And stop playing 9-handed [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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Old 05-06-2007, 09:21 PM
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S is offline
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Default Re: [.25/.50] I have TPWK and don\'t remember what to do with it

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I call every street, bet if checked to.

WA/WB.

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clearly correct.

why your raising this turn is beyond me.
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