Adjusting from pot-limit o8 to limit o8

[tuttufin]

Hi all,

I would like to know, which are the key adjustments I have to make, to get my groove on at limit o8 games.

I feel that playing limit o8 the way I play pl makes me a huge fish. I try to be agressive on plo8 games, but doesen't work that way on limt o8

tips? also some thoughts about which levels are the same compared limit o8 and plo8?

anyone interested giving some private lessons?

[Buzz]

Tuttufin - In terms of strategy and tactics, fixed-limit Omaha-8 and pot-limit Omaha-8 are like night and day.

For example, getting quartered in pot-limit can be a disaster while getting quartered in fixed-limit is generally no big deal.

From what I have seen, pot-limit Omaha-8 plays more like pot-limit Omaha-high, or even no-limit Texas hold 'em, than fixed-limit Omaha-8.

Full ring, fixed-limit Omaha-8 seems a breed apart.

I'd say start out slowly and cautiously. That's at least a safe approach. And don't make the mistake of assuming someone who doesn't raise much before the flop is not aggressive or doesn't know the game.

Buzz

[tuttufin]

This helped, thanks. I dont know If im up to the challenge of beating lo8 games, but maybe I'll try it once again.

Basically I have to learn the game all over again. That sounds pretty interesting.

[davebreal]

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This helped, thanks. I dont know If im up to the challenge of beating lo8 games, but maybe I'll try it once again.

Basically I have to learn the game all over again. That sounds pretty interesting.

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from my experiences at 10/20, 15/30, and 30/60 the games are very aggro, a bet can mean anything from a continuation bet, middle pair, a gutshot, a pure bluff, or top set. button raisers generally continuation bet on any type of flop, even when they get counterfitted. there are a couple of nut peddlers who rarely bet without the goods... but they are few and very far between.

[howzit]

LO8: max value. keeping worse hands in, knocking out better one way hands to get half and folding loser one way hands. mix in ABC strategy to randomize your bluffs. strong hand reading skills and knowing player tendencies are paramount. stack size is almost irrelevant and potsize is secondary to hand reading since you'll almost always be getting a good price to showdown on the river.

oh, and since omaha 8 hands run close in equity, i suggest learning patience to not bleed bets with A87J double suited type hands.

[Danastasio1]

The 2p2 magazine had a great discussion of theory this summer, check out the first few parts to start out.

[Big Dave D]

Interesting you said this, Buzz, as I argued that plo8b should live under the plo banner, back when we had our first forum splits. PLo8b is very strange as it doesn't really resemble either game it might expect, PLO or limit O8b. But its closer to PLO.

gl

bdd

[9999999]

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PLo8b is very strange as it doesn't really resemble either game it might expect,

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<font color="green">9999999 - I'm not sure what to make of the rest of this post (the un-deleted portion). This is primarily a tactics and strategy forum for Omaha-8. - Buzz</font>

[spike420211]

tutuffin:
my experience is more @ the micro limits...
your hi hands [the AA/KK/QQ/AK stuff] tend to lose value @ the low and micro limits, simply because there's more people in the flop [usually 6-7 handed opposed to 3-4 handed]... A2, A23, and even A3 increase in value here, along with suited aces somewhat... and you'll see less limping and more jamming. In limit O/8, the more callers, the more premium your hand has to be preflop [one or both ways].

[Buzz]

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I argued that plo8b should live under the plo banner, back when we had our first forum splits. PLo8b is very strange as it doesn't really resemble either game it might expect, PLO or limit O8b. But its closer to PLO.

[/ QUOTE ]Hi Big Dave - I agree, and when we took a straw vote, way back then, that's how we voted, to put all pot-limit together and all fixed-limit together.

Back then, there was no pot-limit Omaha-8 available on a sustained basis. And there was also no fixed-limit Omaha-high available on a sustained basis.

But things have changed and now pot-limit Omaha-8 games seem available on-line on a sustained basis. (I've still never seen one with my own eyes that goes daily in a casino).

And now that I'm acting as moderator for both forums, I kind of like the split the way it is.

But I still agree that the actual play in pot-limit Omaha-8 is more similar to the actual play in pot-limit Omaha-high than in fixed-limit Omaha-8.

Buzz