27T, 88 in bb, close decision?

billybeartku · #1 11-06-2007, 06:33 PM

preflop raiser is about 16/13, seems like a TAG. not much read on him cuz I was 6 tabling.

I don't know if I should just let it go or shove, it looks pretty close.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (6 handed) by Hand Converter CG

Button (t2095)
SB (t2035)
Hero (t1405)
UTG (t2935)
MP (t3670)
CO (t1360)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, MP raises to t600, 2 folds, SB calls t500, Hero ??

Pocketbear · #2 11-06-2007, 06:34 PM

There are two people in the pot already and you basically have no FE, so I wouldn't say it's close. I'd fold.

vers · #3 11-06-2007, 06:43 PM

I fold as well. 16/13 is fairly tight so I don't think we're ahead of his opening range here from hijack. Also as pbear said with SB is there's like no FE.

malnek · #4 11-06-2007, 07:02 PM

i shove here a lot if i think mp is wide enough and sb is capable of folding. maybe a leak...thoughts?

TruFloridaGator · #5 11-06-2007, 07:07 PM

I don't see MP raising wide enough, he is calling way too often despite being squeezed.

HajiShirazu · #6 11-07-2007, 02:59 AM

This would barely be a shove if it was winner take all and only then because of the possibility of playing with dead money hu.

mortimo · #7 11-07-2007, 03:19 AM

I might go with 99, but it`s close.

Finnisher · #8 11-07-2007, 04:32 AM

Folding is somewhere around 10.5% with ICM. If you shove, MP shoves and SB folds always, you need 45% equity against MP (42% vs 77,AJ) so that's not good. 3-way you need about 38% which is not going to happen. So you'd need to make them both fold sometimes and that's not going to happen either. SB's range is hard to guess but MP would have to be pretty wide and also call with smaller pairs to make this a shove. If next level was 200/400 I think you could shove but with at least 5 mins and the delicious antes before that folding looks good.