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Re: QQ 3-bet pot, bad river
i have QJ and he winz.
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Re: QQ 3-bet pot, bad river
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i have QJ and he winz. [/ QUOTE ] I'm still not crazy about the call. |
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Re: QQ 3-bet pot, bad river
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i have QJ and he winz. [/ QUOTE ] Jfish, would you value shove here with KQ/KJ? I assume you would amirite? |
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Re: QQ 3-bet pot, bad river
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[ QUOTE ] i have QJ and he winz. [/ QUOTE ] Jfish, would you value shove here with KQ/KJ? I assume you would amirite? [/ QUOTE ] urrite. |
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Re: QQ 3-bet pot, bad river
Is it contradictory to have value shoving KJ and bluff shoving QJ be part of the same game plan?
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Is it contradictory to have value shoving KJ and bluff shoving QJ be part of the same game plan? [/ QUOTE ] Can't quite grasp this atm, elaborate? |
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Re: QQ 3-bet pot, bad river
In other words, if people are calling you so light (third pair) such that you think you can value bet (over-pot no less) with 2nd pair, then maybe you shouldn't be bluffing them. You can't both say: "He's got 88-QQ and think he'll call, so I shove KJ", and say: "He's got 88-QQ and think he'll fold, so I'll shove queen high."
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Re: QQ 3-bet pot, bad river
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In other words, if people are calling you so light (third pair) such that you think you can value bet (over-pot no less) with 2nd pair, then maybe you shouldn't be bluffing them. You can't both say: "I know he's got 77-QQ and think he'll call, so I shove KJ", and say: "I know he's got 77-QQ and think he'll fold, so I'll shove queen high." [/ QUOTE ] O, you are just talking villain dependant. I mean if he's value shoving KJ its relativately thin, and for the same reasons, shoving QJ is relatively thin. I don't think shoving both against this villain is that bad. Both are just thin and high variance. |
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Is it contradictory to have value shoving KJ and bluff shoving QJ be part of the same game plan? [/ QUOTE ] haha i dunno maybe. i just figured he doesnt ALWAYS call with QQ here and that maybe he folded QQ- enough of the time. |
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Re: QQ 3-bet pot, bad river
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In other words, if people are calling you so light (third pair) such that you think you can value bet (over-pot no less) with 2nd pair, then maybe you shouldn't be bluffing them. You can't both say: "He's got 88-QQ and think he'll call, so I shove KJ", and say: "He's got 88-QQ and think he'll fold, so I'll shove queen high." [/ QUOTE ] didn't we just go through a big thread on this like 2 weeks ago? |
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