5/10 AJs live

reutel · #1 05-19-2007, 04:04 AM

UTG just joined. He seems like a tight player for this table (that means his VPIP would be around 60 or so), and Granddad is loose and passive. He plays 90% of his hands, and doesn't care if its raised or not. He usually rebuys for 50-150 and loses this in two orbits. He is down a bit, and complaining that his turned top pair (with K4 or something) doesn't hold up on the river against a rivered fullhouse. He only raises on later streets with two pair or better.

I have A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] after 4 limpers in the CO, I raise for value and the big blind and the rest calls.

Flop: (13 sb, 8 players) 6 4 2, with one heart

bb bets, couple of calls(3) and folds, which don't mean anything, I peel, and we see the turn.

Turn: (9BB, 5 players) A, no flushdraws possible.

BB bets, which I didn't expect if he couldn't beat an A here. Two folds. Granddad calls and I call as well.

River: (12 BB, three players) J

BB bets once more, granddad raises I call and UTG calls.

Niediam · #2 05-19-2007, 06:32 AM

Seems fine.

Did you have a specific question?

invictus33 · #3 05-19-2007, 08:48 AM

It does look good, though I'd expect to chop with the reads you have.

Ricks · #4 05-19-2007, 10:50 AM

I think that your two pair is often best here but I also like going for the over-call on the river rather than raising.

chillrob · #5 05-19-2007, 11:39 AM

No one would raise the turn here? Not sure if it is best, but I think I probably would. Think there is a good chance UTG has a weaker ace?

reutel · #6 05-19-2007, 01:19 PM

It just felt like a really weird hand.

The flop peel is not standard for me yet, as I am not used to playing these loose games (1/2 online is way harder

), so I questioned this. Would you peel without the heart?

I also thought of raising the turn & the river. Turn I had some tricky feeling I wasn't ahead because BB still bet at me.

And what about my river play, how often is there more value in a raise than a call?

ps: Why can't I edit my orignal post. I messed up and want to fix it, It was BB that bet the turn and river.

reutel · #7 05-19-2007, 01:22 PM

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It does look good, though I'd expect to chop with the reads you have.

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You think granddad or BB has AJ? I find this very unlikely.

ChuckyB · #8 05-19-2007, 05:19 PM

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No one would raise the turn here? Not sure if it is best, but I think I probably would. Think there is a good chance UTG has a weaker ace?

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I don't like raising in this spot, especially since Hero is unsure where he is in the hand.

chillrob · #9 05-19-2007, 05:37 PM

I'm not sure I do now either - I had thought a different person bet the turn than had bet the flop; OP noted later that he had made a mistake.

MacGuyV · #10 05-19-2007, 07:32 PM

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No one would raise the turn here? Not sure if it is best, but I think I probably would. Think there is a good chance UTG has a weaker ace?

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I don't like raising in this spot, especially since Hero is unsure where he is in the hand.

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Well not to sound condescending but it's a game of imperfect information...I raise with the overlay we're getting here. I guess if you're at the table & don't think he'll bet less than 2pair call is fine, although that also sounds like a player who will fear AA & won't 3bet anything.