5 NL flopping a straight on the flop

[MrBogs]

Depends on your read, there is nothing wrong with shoving or folding, neither is an incorrect play Depends like I said on your read of villain, I mean yes he could have a made hand or he is over betting to protect his draw or maybe giving you bad odds to make yours. Read on villain is the most important factor in this hand/play I think.

[Archon_Wing]

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I think shoving it is ok. If you don't want to do that, then don't play speculative hands like these. You have to be willing to push it if you flop huge. Yea, it's unlucky if someone flops even bigger, but quite often you'll have two pair or a set paying you off.

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I disagree that our hero has flopped huge. If their is 2 hearts, I agree push all the way. 3 hearts and the combo draws with 1 heart are ahead of him. Thats also the reason why doyle does not play 89/9t connectors since you will flop the understr8 enough times and get you rear stacked.

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I don't think it's right to automatically assume that villian has flopped a flush or a straight when he could be making moves with lesser holdings-- we beat many credible holdings here. It's true that a flopped flush or straight destroys us. It is true that calling would be bad as a fourth heart would probaly make this a fold. We're a little less than even money with something like a Q and a heart. We're ahead of everything else. Of course this is all situational, maybe the opponenets tendencies can warrant a fold. And I could see why a fold would be a good idea. I guess we don't really have that much invested. The only bad play would be calling.

But such is the nature of playing marginal hands. If one wants to avoid these tough decisons, then fold preflop might not be a bad idea. So I do agree with the last part of the post.