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Old 07-04-2007, 02:10 PM
WuTank WuTank is offline
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Default NL 25 TT overpairament weak tight turn fold?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($25.10)
UTG+1 ($20.85)
MP1 ($25.75)
MP2 ($17.15)
CO ($15.80)
Button ($37.20)
Hero ($26.50)
BB ($25.75)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $2.

Flop: ($6.25) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.75</font>, MP2 calls $2.75.

Turn: ($11.75) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $5.25</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $17

no reads,assume standard NL25 opponent.
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Old 07-04-2007, 02:14 PM
gumpzilla gumpzilla is offline
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Default Re: NL 25 TT verpairament weak tight turn fold?

I don't particularly like the weak OOP 3 bet with TT, particularly when you follow it up with a cbet that is on the weaker side on a wet board unlikely to intimidate anything that called your 3bet. I would call pre here, but if you do 3 bet, I'd 3 bet to something more like 4 or 4.50. My cbet would then be something like 5.

The turn fold is probably okay, because you're likely to get hit again on the river, but I don't like the hand up until that point, and you certainly look weak enough that this could have been a float. I wouldn't worry about it too much though as even the hands that are floating you here probably have a fair chunk of healthy outs at this point.
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Old 07-04-2007, 02:18 PM
murmeltier21 murmeltier21 is offline
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Default Re: NL 25 TT verpairament weak tight turn fold?

bet 4.5-5 on the flop all day long. if he calls that and another diamond falls would usually be very suspicious. youll see a set/flush/ maybe 66 for the str8 here too often to make an expensive calldown profitable.
so bet more on the flop and as played i guess c/f the turn.
anyone b/f this turn w/o the T of diamonds?
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Old 07-04-2007, 02:30 PM
monkover monkover is offline
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Default Re: NL 25 TT verpairament weak tight turn fold?

i really hate your line. your giving villain way too much credit. If he had A8 heŽd play it the same
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