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Old 08-13-2007, 01:05 AM
UTG-RAISE UTG-RAISE is offline
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Default 100nl overpair facing a jam

No stats on player, he has been playing fairly loose but not getting too out of hand....hero?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button ($138.85)
SB ($89.95)
BB ($187.05)
Hero ($115.75)
MP ($101.50)
CO ($108.85)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $5, SB calls $4.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>.

Flop: ($16) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $17</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $84.95</font>, Hero???
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:21 AM
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Default Re: 100nl overpair facing a jam

bump
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:22 AM
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Default Re: 100nl overpair facing a jam

17?
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:25 AM
Roger Mainfield Roger Mainfield is offline
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Default Re: 100nl overpair facing a jam

Ya why would you ever overbet the flop? And I fold now, I need a read to call this.
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:27 AM
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Default Re: 100nl overpair facing a jam

whats wrong with a pot sized bet?
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:28 AM
DeezNutz DeezNutz is offline
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Default Re: 100nl overpair facing a jam

I fold this. Villain could have, in order of likeliness:

set, straight, 2-pair --&gt; you're way behind.
flush draw (possibly 1 or 2 overs) --&gt; you're a lil better than 50/50.
combo draw --&gt; you're close to 50/50
A9-T9, air --&gt; you're like 80%.

In most cases you're not in great shape, and you're prolly crushed, so fold.
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:35 AM
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Default Re: 100nl overpair facing a jam

this all comes down to your read. if you dont have a read here, i say fold it. but ill instacall against weak players that i have a good line on.

oh, and lol at the people bothering you about betting $17 into a $16 pot. gimme a break. i like the bet actually. gives you a good idea of where opponent is at here. looks like a fold.
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:36 AM
Tony Montana 22 Tony Montana 22 is offline
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Default Re: 100nl overpair facing a jam

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whats wrong with a pot sized bet?


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A lot. First of all, how much are you c betting air then?

Yeah I think you are in pretty bad shape here, and usually I am folding readless.
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:45 AM
AggJedi AggJedi is offline
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Default Re: 100nl overpair facing a jam

Betting 13-14 on this flop accomplishes the same thing as 17.

As previously stated, it's very hard to call here without reads.
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Old 08-13-2007, 01:46 AM
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Default Re: 100nl overpair facing a jam

Not really a fan of 5xbb prelop.

And I think psb is fine on flop,
also I think you can call this profitably,
there's enough draws that he could have here.
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