|
|
#351
06-27-2007, 08:39 PM
|
|||
|
|||
Re: Event #39 - 50K HORSE
[ QUOTE ]
It might go about 4 hours. But if you look at the play, it's slowed to a crawl because of the size of the blinds. No action/play at all. Basically, walks around the table. Maybe 1 or 2 hands to 3rd street. No very exciting coverage for ESPN. [/ QUOTE ] That's not the blinds...that's just Razz. 
|
|
#352
06-27-2007, 08:39 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Event #39 - 50K HORSE
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] It might go about 4 hours. But if you look at the play, it's slowed to a crawl because of the size of the blinds. No action/play at all. Basically, walks around the table. Maybe 1 or 2 hands to 3rd street. No very exciting coverage for ESPN. [/ QUOTE ] You don't seem very happy whether play is fast or slow. -Z [/ QUOTE ] Well it's for the same reason though: bad structure. It's not very exciting to follow the tourney online when I see this: # David Singer (7 Card Stud) David Singer completes to 30,000 with the {6-Diamonds}, winning the antes and the bring in. (7 Card Stud) David Singer completes, winning the antes and the bring ins. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe the problem is weak/tight play. Do you have a link to the hand by hand coverage? [/ QUOTE ] http://www.pokernews.com/live-report...vent-39-horse/
|
|
#353
06-27-2007, 08:44 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Event #39 - 50K HORSE
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] From Pokernews.com [ QUOTE ] Amnon Filippi vs. Kenny Tran (Razz) Amnon Filippi and Kenny Tran are both vying for the chip lead, and they clash in a big pot. Filippi: X X 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] X Tran: X X T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] X 3rd: Tran has the bring in for 10,000, Filippi completes to 30,000, and Tran calls. 4th: Filippi bets 30,000, and Tran calls. 5th: Filippi bets 60,000, and Tran calls. 6th: Filippi bets 60,000, and Tran calls. 7th: Filippi bets 60,000, and Tran goes into the tank for about a minute before he calls. Filippi shows 8-6-5 for an eight low, and Tran mucks. Filippi takes down a big pot. [/ QUOTE ] Wouldn't most people find a fold by 5th street here? [/ QUOTE ] Or 4th. Or 3rd? Maybe he has been taking lessons from Eli Elezra. [/ QUOTE ] What game is this? Is this razz??? [/ QUOTE ] Yes, this is a razz hand.
|
|
#354
06-27-2007, 08:50 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Event #39 - 50K HORSE
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] From Pokernews.com [ QUOTE ] Amnon Filippi vs. Kenny Tran (Razz) Amnon Filippi and Kenny Tran are both vying for the chip lead, and they clash in a big pot. Filippi: X X 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] X Tran: X X T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] X 3rd: Tran has the bring in for 10,000, Filippi completes to 30,000, and Tran calls. 4th: Filippi bets 30,000, and Tran calls. 5th: Filippi bets 60,000, and Tran calls. 6th: Filippi bets 60,000, and Tran calls. 7th: Filippi bets 60,000, and Tran goes into the tank for about a minute before he calls. Filippi shows 8-6-5 for an eight low, and Tran mucks. Filippi takes down a big pot. [/ QUOTE ] Wouldn't most people find a fold by 5th street here? [/ QUOTE ] Or 4th. Or 3rd? Maybe he has been taking lessons from Eli Elezra. [/ QUOTE ] What game is this? Is this razz??? [/ QUOTE ] Yes, this is a razz hand. [/ QUOTE ] Is this a chip dump? I play 10/20-30/60 razz all the time on Full Tilt and Stars and have never seen anything like it. You see some really bad razz play in online HORSaments, but usually nothing like this in $100+ MTTs.
|
|
#355
06-27-2007, 08:52 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Event #39 - 50K HORSE
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] From Pokernews.com [ QUOTE ] Amnon Filippi vs. Kenny Tran (Razz) Amnon Filippi and Kenny Tran are both vying for the chip lead, and they clash in a big pot. Filippi: X X 3 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] X Tran: X X T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] X 3rd: Tran has the bring in for 10,000, Filippi completes to 30,000, and Tran calls. 4th: Filippi bets 30,000, and Tran calls. 5th: Filippi bets 60,000, and Tran calls. 6th: Filippi bets 60,000, and Tran calls. 7th: Filippi bets 60,000, and Tran goes into the tank for about a minute before he calls. Filippi shows 8-6-5 for an eight low, and Tran mucks. Filippi takes down a big pot. [/ QUOTE ] Wouldn't most people find a fold by 5th street here? [/ QUOTE ] Maybe Filippi has been bluffing a lot. Tran is no doubt drawing to a T high on 5th. If Filippi has two high cards in the hole, then Tran is ahead. Even one high card is not hopeless. And of course the J on 6th gives him more hope. [/ QUOTE ] This is exactly the thinking that gets bad Razz players in trouble. Even if Filippi IS bluffing AND Tran catches a made 10 on 6th street, Filippi probably has about 19 outs twice to a better low. There's no way he has enough equity to call a big bet on 5th street.
|
|
#356
06-27-2007, 08:57 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Event #39 - 50K HORSE
I assume Filippi was in steal position. In that case, the call on 3rd is OK with live wheel hole cards. But you have to fold 4th, even if you may have the best hand. You can't go against the boards that much.
|
|
#357
06-27-2007, 09:03 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Event #39 - 50K HORSE
Just saw the lil in-between break interview with Amnon. How big does he play that $2.2 mill wouldn't affect him? I'm aware he's a big cash game player and whatnot but that's gotta be an eventful sum even for the richest of folks, amirite?
|
|
#358
06-27-2007, 09:16 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Event #39 - 50K HORSE
[ QUOTE ]
This is exactly the thinking that gets bad Razz players in trouble. [/ QUOTE ] I resemble that remark. Of course we don't know what the dead cards were, perhaps that played into it. Edit: I managed to give Tran 40% equity on 5th when Filippi is not bluffing, although I admit my dead cards are a bit extreme: http://twodimes.net/h/?z=2809634 pokenum -mc 500000 -r 8h 5d 3s as 5h - 2d 4c ts 9c td / 2s 4s 2h 4d 2c 4h Razz (7-card Stud A-5 Low): 500000 sampled outcomes cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV As 3s 5d 8h 5h 298787 59.76 201213 40.24 0 0.00 0.598 Ts 9c 4c Td 2d 201213 40.24 298787 59.76 0 0.00 0.402
|
|
#360
06-27-2007, 09:50 PM
|
|||
|
|||
|
Re: Event #39 - 50K HORSE
[ QUOTE ]
Just saw the lil in-between break interview with Amnon. How big does he play that $2.2 mill wouldn't affect him? I'm aware he's a big cash game player and whatnot but that's gotta be an eventful sum even for the richest of folks, amirite? [/ QUOTE ] He may only have a small piece of himself. Or, if he's truly rich e.g. $100M or more, what's another mil to the good after taxes n' stuff?
|
 |
|
|
Linear Mode
