Standard line against LAGgy player? 100NL live

Chizoad · #1 10-26-2007, 05:13 PM

I'm pretty new to NL (longtime limit player) so this probably falls under typical play.

I'm in early position with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] in a $1-2 blinds game. UTG, very laggy player, limps in. I make it $9 to go, only he calls.

Flop is A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. He leads $20 into me, a play I'd seen him make before with a weak ace against another preflop raiser. He has $40 left, I have him covered. Given the draw on the board, what's the best line against a player like this?

Chargers In 07 · #2 10-26-2007, 05:17 PM

With only 30bbs postflop just shove with TPTK. Your push is going to give him ~2.5:1 so he's not folding anything he bets with.

Chizoad · #3 10-26-2007, 05:27 PM

You're telling me he wouldn't fold A3 or something for $40 more? I think most players who have a hand that weak when faced with "an obvious AK" would fold there. Could be my inexperience with NL though.

Effen · #4 10-26-2007, 05:32 PM

LOL @ him folding A3. That's top pair, Aces! Seriously, put him in.

el_grande · #5 10-26-2007, 07:07 PM

shove is standard.

his stack is only about 3x the pot on the flop. you want to play for his stack with TPTK, especially since he is a LAG.

fortunatley for you he just committed himself so getting it all in is easy.

Brimstead · #6 10-26-2007, 07:11 PM

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You're telling me he wouldn't fold A3 or something for $40 more? I think most players who have a hand that weak when faced with "an obvious AK" would fold there. Could be my inexperience with NL though.

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he can't fold, he's put close to half his stack in, he's committed.

AlexB182 · #7 10-26-2007, 07:16 PM

I've played like only 12h of live poker last weakend but I learned A LOT. Just shove here and expect to get called by KJos or some crap here. Really.

jjshabado · #8 10-26-2007, 10:37 PM

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You're telling me he wouldn't fold A3 or something for $40 more? I think most players who have a hand that weak when faced with "an obvious AK" would fold there. Could be my inexperience with NL though.

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Its not "an obvious AK" to the vast majority of live 1/2 NL players. Thats where you're having problems seeing why shoving is good.

FireStorm · #9 10-26-2007, 10:45 PM

Get it in because he's pot committed and you want the money in now, as opposed to having to call off $40 on the turn after a diamond/Q/J/T comes off.

Albert Moulton · #10 10-26-2007, 11:10 PM

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With only 30bbs postflop just shove with TPTK. Your push is going to give him ~2.5:1 so he's not folding anything he bets with.

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QFT.

If he out flopped you, then so be it. Stacks are too short given your "read" on villain as "laggy" to get away from this hand if you are behind. I think you are ahead of his draws and/or other various semi-bluffs and bluffs often enough to push with a +EV.