50NL AK TPTK facing flop push.....am I getting the odds?

SammyKid11 · #1 03-01-2007, 01:26 AM

Villain is 36/17/.8...

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Button ($61.65)
Hero ($62.90)
BB ($34.27)
UTG ($36.85)
MP ($13.93)
CO ($38.15)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.25.
UTG raises to $1.75, 2 folds, Button calls $1.75, Hero (poster) raises to $4.75, 1 fold, UTG calls $3.25, Button calls $3.25.

Flop: ($15.50) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $11, UTG calls $36.85 (All-In), Button folds, Hero???

Thremp · #2 03-01-2007, 01:27 AM

Call. Does UTG slowplay AA that often like this?

prodonkey · #3 03-01-2007, 01:30 AM

You only have to call 21 more.. folding here would be beyond awful.

and12006 · #4 03-01-2007, 01:31 AM

Tough spot, you'd probley see a set here, do you have any solid reads? Would he call your raise with 66 or 88, and if he has AA he played poorly, I usually go broke with TPTK especially with AK but in this spot I might call, depending on the player, I've seen villians do this with QQ, JJ sometimes because they hate being outdrawn.

Thremp · #5 03-01-2007, 01:36 AM

Oh your preflop raise is beyond bad also.

SammyKid11 · #6 03-01-2007, 01:40 AM

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Call. Does UTG slowplay AA that often like this?

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That's far from the only thing I'm worried about here. Villain's raising as much as I am, a little more. 88 and 66 are very possible given how he's played the hands, and KK is a hand I've been noticing people stopping with PF as well. Certainly you have to think AA are a possibility.

But for a guy who is .8 AF, what exactly is he raising UTG, calling the re-raise, and pushing over the flop bet with...that we beat? The ONLY thing I can think of, to be honest, is KQ. And certainly chopping with AK is possible as well.

Are we ahead enough to justify the call? Maybe, but if so I think it might be closer than we might be giving credit for.

and12006 · #7 03-01-2007, 01:40 AM

Raise to atleast 5.60 if your going to raise.

prodonkey · #8 03-01-2007, 01:46 AM

You're getting like 3.3:1.. I can't find a fold here. Sucks he had 8's though.